Twelve Months Ago

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Uwe Rosler's Grandad

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I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
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Agreed
 
Don't you have a contact in the media URG? I'd like to know what they think, as for the time being they've not turned on Hughes, which is surprising considering our position and they way they'd normally like crucifying people in his position.

There is obviously something wrong in the club, both playing and manager wise. I think the playing side will be changed fast in January and the owners will be looking to change this side of the club before changing managers. We won't IMHO be able to get a world class, proven manager until the summer. If/when Hughes goes the next appointment has to be spot on or the whole cycle just starts over and we move nowhere fast.
 
I am pretty sure they are looking now, the thing is as much as many would like them to hurry up, I doubt if they will act in haste, they will get the best but we may have to wait until summer, in the meantime Hughes job is to keep us up, and if it looks like he is failing (after the next couple of matches) the trap door awaits and a caretaker will be appointed
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
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Well that is the post that sways my thinking

FECKOFF M.H.
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
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We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
 
But it's not really fair to compare the first half of last season with the first half of this one without looking at the bigger picture. In the second half of last season we were every bit as poor as we are now and picked up about as many points as we have now. Most of us expected a slow start, picking up in the second part of the season but we got the opposite. If we had started like we finished the season, would we have been screaming for Sven's head? I doubt it.

Don't forget (although I think many have) that the two seasons before Sven we were poor as well. I think the first part of last season was an exception. A new owner we thought was loaded, a new and high-profile manager after the numpty that was Pearce, real optimism and hope for the future. We had a new manager bounce and, like many similar situations, it petered out as our lack of quality started to tell.

Some managers can engineer that bounce but can't sustain it whereas the better managers actually seem to take a step backwards before they can move forward.
 
Blue Mooner said:
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
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We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
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Most the players Sven brought in it was there first season in the prem and not trained with City. second half they were knakerd if we had stuck with sven this team would be 10 times better than now plus i know who i would want to spend my money
 
spanishblue said:
Blue Mooner said:
We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
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Most the players Sven brought in it was there first season in the prem and not trained with City. second half they were knakerd if we had stuck with sven this team would be 10 times better than now plus i know who i would want to spend my money
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But it's not the first season for Robinho, Zabaleta or Kompany ?

On current signings I would back Hughes every time.
 
An excellent post.

As things stand, I guess its up to the fans now, bluntly and with force.
 
I haven't read anything posted after yesterday's game, except this. I stayed away from the board because, correct me if I'm wrong, I guess it became the usual slanging match between the pro and anti Hughes factions.

It seems to me that anybody that has followed City for more than a few years must know that what we need, but have never had, is stability. We should have stuck so many times, but we've always gone for the twist option. The one thing we have never done in the 30 plus years I've followed City is actually had real and lasting faith in a manager. It's as obvious as it gets that stability and success go together in the EPL. You get nowhere by chopping and changing managers. The best teams have found somebody that can do the job, stuck with him through the hard times, and eventually built something solid and successful.

This obvious fact has bothered me a lot in relation to Hughes and what is happening now. Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez, Moyes; they've all had time and have come good. But Scolari has had less time than Hughes and he's doing good!

In the end, it has to come down to ability. If we were talking about giving a manager like Sven time, I'd be 100% in the 'we need stability camp' , even given our current league position. I'd feel the same about any proven manager, because I know as well as anybody else who has followed City for 30 plus years that we have to stop chopping and changing mangers!

But, is Hughes a proven manager? Does he have enough ability to deserve our faith? Sadly, I have to say no. But it is sadly! Because we need stability.
 
Why has it taken you so long to come to this conclusion?


There evidence has be there for many weeks regarding his lack of ability.
 
if nothing else today mammutly read Nick.Nikkys post here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=98701&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/vi ... a&start=10</a>
 
mammutly said:
It's as obvious as it gets that stability and success go together in the EPL. You get nowhere by chopping and changing managers. The best teams have found somebody that can do the job, stuck with him through the hard times, and eventually built something solid and successful.

This obvious fact has bothered me a lot in relation to Hughes and what is happening now. Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez, Moyes; they've all had time and have come good. But Scolari has had less time than Hughes and he's doing good!
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I tend to think that those are given time because they are successful, not that their teams are successful because the managers have been given time.
 
Blue Mooner said:
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
I haven't posted upstairs for quite some time as I didn't want to get into all the raging debates. I've sat on the fence a long time.

I'm not going to do a long rambling post but just thought I'd mention that yesterday I found myself thinking back only twelve months.

This time last year we had a manager who had been in the job four or five months, we had a few new players (including the likes of Elano, Garrido, Corluka, Petrov and Bojinov), the squad seemed to be working for and like the manager, a new owner (I was sceptical of), playing mainly with one up front (which I didn't like but we were getting results) and we were sitting high in the league with about 30 points.

Twelve months later we have a manager who has been in the job six months, we have a few new players (including the likes of Ben Haim, Jo, Zabaleta, Kompany, Wright-Phillips and Robinho), a squad that doesn't seem to be working for or like the manager, a new owner (who I am totally behind), playing several formations and we are looking like relegation fodder.

Something has gone horribly wrong and it needs changing fast. I could be wrong but I really don't think Hughes is up to it. Time for our new owners to flash the cheque book at a world class proven manager.
Click to expand...

We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
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surely that was because Sven was told he would leaving at the end of the season and the impending implosion of Thaksins bank account.
 
biffa said:
Blue Mooner said:
We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
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surely that was because Sven was told he would leaving at the end of the season and the impending implosion of Thaksins bank account.
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I think that is established history. It's just ignored by some posters as it's inconvenient
 
biffa said:
Blue Mooner said:
We were actually on 34 at this stage last season 18 points of which were 1-0 wins, which means that in the second half of the season we only accumulated 21 points, only 3 points better than Hughes 1st half - he inherited a poorly performing side.
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surely that was because Sven was told he would leaving at the end of the season and the impending implosion of Thaksins bank account.
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Biffa dont even try explaing, when people say hughes was left with a poor squad you know there fucking stupid. What do they think was left for sven when Pearce left.
 
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