UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[SidJames]

City owner has said he will spend £30,000 000 on the Worlds best lawyers to tackle UEFA.

Fighting talk that is.................

 

[meltonblue]

I have to say this even though I expect lots of flak :)

What we are guilty of is gross negligence by getting caught. Club officials have been amateurish in the extreme by allowing highly confidential mails to be hacked and to be honest if we were reading them from another club we would be getting stuck into them.

Have the club used various means to bypass the effects of FFP after the first sanctions? Highly likely in my view and the mails pretty much confirm this. Conn is right (unfortunately) in his Guardian article that the club has had the opportunity to provide the full email chains to refute them and presumably they havent done so. We are relying on the defence that the mails were illegally obtained so cant be used as evidence.

This defence might be enough...I doubt it though.

There’s another element to this too.

Defending against Uefa is one thing. I’ve never cared for FFP and I’d rather we’d fought against it.

However, we didn’t, instead we became self sustaining and we made quite a big thing about how good our business model was. As a fan, I bought into that fully.

If, and it’s still an if, we cooked the books, then it won’t annoy me that we failed ffp or try to hoodwink Uefa. I’d be more annoyed that the vision of self sustainability and when we got there that was sold to me as a fan was a myth.

Had we ignored ffp, spent what we liked and accepted all the consequences, I’d have backed the owners to the hilt. Had we challenged uefa immediately about ffp as a principle, I’d have backed the owners to the hilt. If they’ve lied to me as a fan in order to lie to uefa and created the pretence that we’ve passed and our business model was always sound, that’s where I start to have an issue.

I don’t know which one yet is actually true. I want to believe and have always backed that the club is right and will continue to do so unless I see enough to think otherwise. The email leak was worrying to say the least though and if we have been misled (and I mean us as fans rather than Uefa) then my support for the owners will go very quickly.

It’s just a wait and see now though. Feels like we’re approaching the end game.

 

[argyle]

As bad as this may seem to some, remember it could be so much worse.


We could be Liverpool.

You mean top with all the media on their side?

 

[davek1808]

Media going bananas hoping for us to get relegated and stripped of titles. I feel like I’m done with football

No chance the Premier league act on something that could be overturned, they will keep their powder dry................. For Now!

 

[marco]

Could this not drag out for years, after CAS the European courts?

To be honest as much as I hate the bastards, they have to have the evidence to have gone this far. If true this means the club have been bluffing and blustering all this time hoping it would deter them, but knowing if it failed we were fucked. We will soon find out I guess because the shit has now definitely hit the fan.

great way of putting it mate,i dont think UEFA would have gone that far if they didnt have the proof,im afraid its the later of your post that worries me,you would think we would have the better of legal teams money could buy surrley we have not fell foul here,its a massive cock up if we have

 

[solley attwell]

Liverpool get 6 years for mass murder
City get 2 years for spending their own money

 

[blueinsa]

City owner has said he will spend £30,000 000 on the Worlds best lawyers to tackle UEFA.

Fighting talk that is.................

Link?

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I’ve achieved the impossible. I’ve caught up with the thread.

Fuck UEFA.

Impossible for me, needed a shit and a shave, and popped down to the shop for a box of lagers, just jumped 30 pages or so.

Don't suppose I've missed anything important?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Well this has come as a shock to me,from reading bullish posts on here previously before today’s decision,uefa must have some concrete evidence to go all in with not only a 2 year ban but a fine as well,just hope that the club haven’t fucked up somewhere along the line regarding ffp and sponsorship deals,and even if we do get this overturned it’s the mud that’s been flung that sticks,the reputation of the club has been tarnished by all this shit ..

Which is pretty much the point.
Continually tarnishing our reputation aided and abetted by all the media.
Continually discrediting all achievements.
They are turning the fans off football by use of what we see as pronlonged bias against us on and off the pitch.

Fans of Clubs benefitting aren’t concerned about the integrity of the sport. VAR and dubious refereeing doesn’t concern them as long as they gain. Because the narrative in the media is always stacked in their favour.

Well it’s worked. Whether we beat them or not in the probably long drawn out CAS and court battles, I’m coming to the end of caring about football.
If all it means at the end of it is that we get to play in their corrupt business league then I’m done.

They have succeeded in turning me off football. Not City.
I’ll support City in the new sport of European Courts, but football is dead.
I’m starting to find the whole business obscene.

 

[BigBluey]

I hope we have got our house in order rather than play this game of brinkmanship with UEFA.

If we appeal through CAS and possibly the Swiss Supreme courts and are still found guilty, I'm not sure where we go from there.
Change of Ownership?
Start out own competition with like minded clubs to rival the Champions League and invite World Wide clubs to participate.
Remain as UEfa's whipping boys.
Try and get some influence in the corridors of power?
I don't think we can afford to lose the war we are in at the moment but we can't carry on like the present status Quo from now on.
Looks line it's shit or bust!