UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Eds]

Agreed. If we had irrefutable evidence, a smoking gun, surely we would made it public knowledge by now? Either directly or leaked to the press. Someone like Martin Samuel would be desperate to get hold of that sort of stuff. I just don’t get this idea that we are sitting there holding 4 aces but have decided not to play them yet. It makes absolutely no sense. Why would we let this drag on a minute longer than necessary if we could blow eufa out of the water? Isn’t it a golden rule of PR that you kill bad news as quickly as possible?

Maybe we did show the evidence in the 200 page document that UEFA chose to ignore hence we are now saying we have irrefutable evidence but we can't say what it is due to the ongoing process and the confidentiality of it all. After all we can't accuse UEFA of leaking like a sieve and then do the same

 

[Sir peace frog]

I agree. No one wants this case thrown out and City cleared more than me, but there is a level of confidence on this thread that I find hard to share.
I don’t believe UEFA are as thick as they are being made out and I don’t trust CAS.
For all the so called experts on here, it’s funny that not one poster predicted the 2 year ban.

There is a level of confidence because 99.9% of people haven't got a fucking clue, they keep mentioning army of lawyers, and let the battle commence, they go on as if UEFA are using Noreen down the road coz she's good with words, UEFA obviously have something on us, we will see, and hopefully we can prove ourselves

 

[willipp]

David liked my tweet showing that evidence about who paid the sponsorship. There's hope for him yet.

They have nailed their colours so strongly and firmly to the mast, i don't think there is any way back for them now.

 

[Marvin]

There is a level of confidence because 99.9% of people haven't got a fucking clue, they keep mentioning army of lawyers, and let the battle commence, they go on as if UEFA are using Noreen down the road coz she's good with words, UEFA obviously have something on us, we will see, and hopefully we can prove ourselves

If Ceferin wanted to settle with City and refused, I would suggest it is city's position that is strong whilst the UEFA hawks just wanted City labelled as cheats and embrolied in legal action. They don't care if UEFA falls too. They will just set up their own private comps with no relegation. All they want is to ring fence their money.

 

[paulchapo]

How many top players do you think would want no CL football and not trying to win the league Paul? You really think the likes of KDB would be switched on for 2 or 3 seasons like that?

I know mate it was me being pedantic. I guess it was more a scenario ( God forbid) we lost Kev, Raz and a couple more key players. We are the only real challengers to Liverpool at the moment, albeit not this season, we could really fuck their premier league up as a competition if we were bloody minded. Mind you I'd say with the top side 25 points ahead of the nearest challenger in February they have done that themselves.

 

[Len Rum]

Agreed. If we had irrefutable evidence, a smoking gun, surely we would made it public knowledge by now? Either directly or leaked to the press. Someone like Martin Samuel would be desperate to get hold of that sort of stuff. I just don’t get this idea that we are sitting there holding 4 aces but have decided not to play them yet. It makes absolutely no sense. Why would we let this drag on a minute longer than necessary if we could blow eufa out of the water? Isn’t it a golden rule of PR that you kill bad news as quickly as possible?

It would appear we do have the evidence but that is immaterial as regards the appeal to CAS.
The 'only' ( albeit important) thing appears to matter in our appeal is that UEFA ignored it.
This being the case I agree with you - why not get the evidence out there?

 

[badaz52]

No, Etihad is owned by the Abu Dhabi government HH Sheikh Mansour is not on the Etihad board nor is he an executive or a shareholder

@prestichblue has discovered a public document present to the Open Skies investigation that shows irrefutable proof that the AD ruling council funded Etihad's sponsorship of City

Only other club in the CFG that UEFA have any jurisdiction on is Girona who haven't qualified for any UEFA competitions

But he is the Deputy PM of the Government? so while he may not be a direct executive or shareholder he does have a vested interest in Etihad as a company. Let's be honest here SM has been in a position to inject cash into Etihad, hasn't he? now as long as he didn't inject that cash from ADUG then there shouldn't be an issue should there? although that is technically exploiting a loophole. In my opinion, what City is defending here is a technicality, whether they will win their appeal on that basis I don't know but let us all be sensible here the UAE has several big organizations that have strong links to the Government of which SM is the Deputy PM.

I don't doubt for one minute that SM has injected cash into Etihad but where that money came from is the problem along with the unraveling the complexity of government business.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I know CAS aren't looking at the actual evidence but I'm pretty sure win or lose at CAS we'll be taking this further.

Let’s hope so mate. The only way to clear our good name and hurt these c*nts.

 

[City Raider]

This has been coming for a very long time. Remember the extraordinary Platini interview with Martin Samuel?

Platini: Because we make a deal six years ago to the G14 and they ask me and say ‘OK Michel, but for the moment, we don’t touch the distribution of the money.’

Samuel: How long has the deal got to go?

Platini: I have to speak with Rummenigge

Says it all.

 

[oakiecokie]

Don't lower the tone, Oakie. Gardeners Question Time on the radio mentioned the Winsford Flashers so l listened for you to come on especially when all the questions came from posh ladies.
Not a scouse accent around to ask about the old cars in their front gardens on the Overspill estate.

I like that one mate. ;)