UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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On the Liverpool kit supplier, more specifically it's Warrior Sports, a New Balance subsidiary which has investors from the Saudi royal family

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...stment-agreement-announced-liverpool-12687560

Now, that must be untrue. They're too pure of spirit for that.

Added a bit of crap about this subject on my blog too. That and Pearce's unbroken record.

And if you want to see fairness, then compare the other 17 Premier League clubs, the multitude of top level European clubs and see where we’re at. Is better marketing allowed too?

And, to read further Colin Savage (Prestwich OSC) at Bolts From The Blue has it spot on. It is my understanding that right now, one board, kind of preparation court has to prepare a case with recommendations. It must have solid evidence. There is also the fact that the financial fair play cases being pushed by Belgian lawyer Jean-Louis Dupont has yet to be concluded. UEFA’s slippery net is at full risk of crashing and burning. The E.U. and Belgian courts may kick it over to a court in Switzerland. Would you trust a place that hoarded gold from dubious piles of ruins arund the late 1940’s. Oh, and they only let women race and vote as late as the ’70’s. Look up the Swiss Verdingkinder and you’ll probably understand that fairness is far from a national trait. Switzerland is ranked one of the top 5 nations to export weaponry. Now look up how few factories they have capable of such a thing, and how few soldiers that they have. Don’t count the noble Swiss Army Knife. Saudi Arabia and the Ukrainian armed forces are up as much to benefit from Switzerland as UEFA is. The battle for fair play could equally take place in another nation.

If a case ever gets presented, who will it affect? The fans. Of course, the fans that nobody cares less about these days. The agents will still find ways to make money. The clubs will lose some trade and opportunity. The clubs and their hostories may be tainted. Juventus came out of their demotion smelling of rose. Ronaldo’s rape allegations weren’t treated seriously. Wayne Rooney was destroyed by papers following an affair, or visit to an elder lady of the night. The Heysel disaster saw 14 Liverpool F.C. fans convicted of manslaughter, and many more labeled as thugs. It tainted UEFA’s history in international competitions and promptly banned English clubs for five years (six years for Liverpool F.C.). Around 39 people died that day. UEFA, the Belgian police force and Liverpool F.C. continued on.

UEFA and any external independent legal team will have to consider the impact and consequences of any punishment. Just like disasters and the investigations that follow them, this will drag on. It will ruin football for the fans. It will be bitter and painful, but at least no lives have been lost – and no ruthlessly banded phrases used. Even of that club’s fans chuck potential death-causing smoke bombs at an enclosed coach full of people, or other such facial damaging glass bottles.

I disagree with any fans using the “always a victim” tagline when referring to Liverpool F.C. It is dishonest and stupid to say so. The Hillsborough disaster was a low point in football history. 96 people died. Justice has yet to be found, despite 30 years of court actions. Just like the Bradford City stadium fire that claimed 56 people, these were disasters brought about by those above and those in control of stadia and their management. It is too easy to blame fans. It is tasteless to associate the death of many in this way. I urge anyone crying the words “always a victim” to play the shocking videos on YouTube on to reach their inner humanity. Don’t be a knobhead.

Surely, if you restrict Forest Green Rovers from buying multiple players and building a 60,000 seater stadium to allow them to grow and one day compete with the Premier League clubs, then you restrict the evolution of football. Where are the original football league clubs now? Are they all equal? Can new clubs like M.K. Dons form? Isn’t it more important to back ambition and make clubs more self-sufficient. If a club can develop a pool of 200 players in a decade, it is unlikely they will all make it. They need places to go. Partnerships and deals need to be done. Just like marketing. Sheikh Mansour and Etihad are unrelated yet it would be foolish to think the two don’t have indirect influence over one or the other. If I was Queen Elizabeth II and I owned Reading F.C., whilst I owned Weetabix, but did not manage or influence them, I’d be pleased if Weetabix wanted to sponsor my Reading F.C. club. In City’s case UEFA have already accepted fair market value for all the sponsorship by Etihad but Aabar and Etisalat remain under question.

The issue of FFP, the NY Times, Liverpool FC and all others are intertwined right now. I know I started to go off on tangents but thats how the issue is discussed across the media. And, with little heart or support.

Don’t panic. Don’t worry. As Colin Savage mentions:

“It also could be that a journalist has completely misrepresented and sensationalised what they’ve been told. That wouldn’t be the first time that has happened.”
 
Uefa are a bunch of cnuts. The way they are blatantly trying to stop us by hook or by crook is astonishing. They are fucking shameless. When Chelsea started spending like crazy, there was not a word spoken by them. Madrid,Rags and Barca broke one transfer record after another in spite of being in massive debts but they had the right to. Why? Because they "earned it". Yeah right. Like the Spanish government completely cleared Madrid's debts. Suddenly, when we started spending, all these FFP bullshit started coming into play despite us not even breaking one transfer record. Go fuck yourselves UEFA. See you in court.
 
According to the Telegraph report tonight they cite Mavroidis from Greece saying Uefa haven't reached a decision yet.

Surely yet another example that the chamber are leaking and discussing our case.

Funnily enough, the same paper in the same article cites a source close to the investigation saying a ban would be put on ice until an our appeal.

They seem to have it all mapped out.
Starting to sound like another load of bollocks, another day again....we've had this shit must be 5/6 times now this season, no decision, no guts but a quick drag through the mud for us while the media all have a pop.
 
This is not the first time that City have alluded to their belief that there is a targeted effort by certain sections to discredit the club. This latest press release and City’s subsequent response seems to only confirm this stance. I just hope that if this is the case that this is exposed and I presume that would have to be through the courts.
 
It's a concerted campaign to bring down the club and its reputation through controlled media and controlled football institutions. We can't afford the status quo. Let's fight them in courts.
 
The decision has not yet been made by the Committee that includes Mr Parry but I assume he will have extreme difficulty in criticising City for bending rules when his own Club failed FFP yet because they did not qualify for CL they were not charged.

If we or any club find ways round rules then like taxation it is the rule not the club that is wrong.
 
MANCHESTER CITY vs EVERYONE
2019/20
The 12th anniversary season. Coming to a selection of top level stadiums near you, at very expensive prices or a fixed price away if it is the Premier League. The club will surely go tooth, claw, blood, sweat and tears to silence the voices against them. Features may be restricted for the sequel.

MANCHESTER CITY vs ALMOST EVERYONE WE'RE ALLOWED TO PLAY
2020/21
To be confirmed. Subject to change.
 
I am no legal expert but should a ban be imposed which would then restrict the players ability to play in said competition would each player then not have a case for restraint of trade?
 
I am no legal expert but should a ban be imposed which would then restrict the players ability to play in said competition would each player then not have a case for restraint of trade?

Imo yes mate, they have a contract that includes champions league qualification, bonuses etc? Also Uefa would be accusing our accountants of false accounting as well which would be another legal battle!
 
Can we not get the der spiegel hacker to return the favour on some of our rivals? Didn’t one get posted that united paid Monaco £6m for a phantom friendly?
 
Why does nobody ever talk about Stanley park ? What the hell ever happened to that and why were they allowed to write off so much cash and pass FFP ? Maybe we should build a few failed fake ass stadiums and write off millions eh
Was it not £50M? To essentially come to conclusion Stanley part is big enough but all too expensive.
 
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