UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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How can UEFA decide what is and what is not fair value in any sponsorship deal. That is surely upto the company concerned as to how much they want to pay any sponsorship deal. If I run a company (which I don't) decide I want to pay MCFC £100 million year for the name of my company to be put on the shirts that is upto me and not some stuff up official in UEFA to tell me that that is not allowed, as that is not fair value for money.
they employ evaluation companys which will give them a reasonable cost and if its not in the boundries of that then its deemed unreasonable
 
Have a read of this regarding Yves Leterme and the PSG case back in 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/sports/psg-uefa-ffp.html

Seems Yves Leterme had the interests of Qatar at heart allowing PSG to get off the hook. Interesting that Bein Sports had at the time secured a multi-million dollar deal to become a UEFA partner

I think that this along with other information could effectively show UEFA for what they are if we decide to go after them

Yves Leterme is bent as fuck, and even other people in UEFA knew it.

He single-handedly allowed PSG's insane sponsorships to stand, he's the person who supposedly refused to hear our defence, and he's the chair of the leakiest confidential chamber in the world.

If City genuinely think there's been a dedicated attack on them, he's the guy they need to go after in civil court after CAS.
 
marco unreasonable in their eyes maybe but not in my eyes. I very much doubt if that ever went to court, UEFA would end up loosing. As that would be consider a restraint of trade.
 
I thought as much but I'm not an accountant so didn't want to jump to conclusions.

So along with the many procedural arguments we could make, our main substantive argument could simply be that it doesn't matter where Etihad got their money from, they are not a related party because there is nobody at City who exerts significant control over Etihad?

The problem remains that if Mansour gives his money to Etihad purely in order for them to pass it on as sponsorship, the substance of the transaction is Mansour is investing in his own business and its then not about whether Etihad are related or not. If Mansour paid Etihad money as part of some other business transaction e.g. hiring planes for personal travel, that would not be a problem.
 
My take is that UEFA haven't really wanted to pursue this which is why they hoped we would take the small 'pinch'.
When we didn't, the 'elite' G14 continued to apply pressure for UEFA to act. UEFA have announced the unprecedented 2 year ban in the hope we accept a compromise of a 1 year ban. Under these circumstances I think it is quite possible that UEFA will not have followed procedures because they didn't expect (or want) to be in this position.

If we don't concede (and I don't think we will) and if we win the appeal then this will severely damage UEFA's integrity (funny I know) and their finances. At this point the G14 will wrestle power away from a weak UEFA and we will be in a completely different war.

Whatever way I look at it, the G14 cannot lose.
 
This could go one of three ways :-
1 all charges dropped as an oversight by UEFA.
2. A world club championship league bankrolled by the Middle East made up of the world's best teams but must not include more than 1 team from any one city for financial reasons ( Everton are on board with this)
Or
3. City breaks every point's/ goalscoring records in League 2 League 1 and the Championship.
 
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