UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I'd assume that the lawyers involved would be the ones who see the information, and they'd generally be pretty keen to keep their reputations intact.

@gordondaviesmoustache's point about maybe holding back up to now sounds like a reasonable point, but presumably doesn't hold when it goes to CAS.
Did I misinterpret the CAS report or is it not true that only evidence that has already been presented in the ruling against us is admissible now. UEFA can't throw anything new into the mix now.
I also took that as meaning if we have anything up our sleeve, it had better be in the 200 page dossier, as we can't present anything new at this point in time. That would have to come after CAS.

Have I got that wrong?
 
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nvestigation-into-abu-dhabi-sponsors-football

This is our friend Conn’s latest article.

He argues that UEFA were duped about Etihad being able to fund the sponsorship deal. He alleges that, in the event, Sheikh Monsour covered the debt.

Consequently, according to Conn, Etihad should now be treated as a ”related party” and the fair value of the sponsorship subjected to scrutiny.

If re-valued downwards, that would affect our accounts on an ongoing basis, not just up to 2016. He’s raising this as a new spectre.

In effect it’s a slightly re-packaged frightener on his part, not based on new evidence or revelations.

That’s my take FWIW.
I’ve actually been thinking about this myself.

We were cleared and signed off by UEFA from 2013-14 up to 2015-16 for complying with FFP in that period. But it was complying with FFP in respect of not incurring losses in that time period.

UEFA say they have “evidence” that we have gone against FFP regulations in that time period in another way than not incurring losses... City say that can’t be looked at as we were already signed off by UEFA for that time period but are City right? Were were we signed off for all FFP related issues or just compliance with not incurring losses?

Can that case be re-opened if it’s a different kind of FFP rule breaks?

City also say the “evidence” has been illegally obtained and that what the “evidence” shows is not the actual reality... this may be true, but can UEFA still open up investigations into it?
 
Did I misinterpret the CAS report or is it not true that only evidence that has already been presented in the ruling against us is admissible now. UEFA can't throw anything new into the mix now.
I also took that as meaning if we have anything up our sleeve, it had better be in the 200 page dossier, as we can't present anything new at this point in time. That would have to come after CAS.

Have I got that wrong?

I don't know. If we couldn't dispel allegations in 200 pages, we're probably doing it wrong.
I'd think that no new allegations can be brought in certainly.
 
That is a frankly alarming admission for a supposedly credible journalist who expects people to respect his opinion on this story to make - if he can't understand the legal and financial arguments which underpin this issue, what's the point in anyone giving his opinion any greater credence than your average fan in the street?

Proper journalists are supposed to add value and insight to the narrative - not just spout ill-informed, poorly-researched opinion.

My impression is that this is more an admission of the one-eyed nature of his reporting, and his flagrant lack of interest in providing anything approaching balance in his reporting - he doesn't even want to try and understand both sides of the story, even if only to argue why he thinks one side may be wrong.

He's got less credibility as a journalist than I do as a contributor on Bluemoon. That's really bad for him.
 
And the City fans signing "you don't know what you're doing" to Dunny just before he lifted the trophy!
The other stand outs were how far away from the pitch we were and there was a bloke there rejoicing at them selling alcohol in the stadium. “I’ve already had five bottles in the ground and am well on the way. Far more civilised than England and this Sin Alcohol isn’t half bad”!
 
I have this to say to the press and Media:

99% of you are corrupt whores who have prostituted the little talent you have. I don't give a damn what you think or write about the Club I love and have followed since 1964/65. Paid liars do not impress me - their opinions are utterly worthless. Especially when (as applies to many of you) they work for corrupt plutocratic arseholes who care only about avoiding tax and hold the general population in utter contempt. So you (and UEFA) can fuck off. Go and find some morals.
 
Great forensic analysis, no wonder journalists don't like seeing the kind of thing they should be doing themselves. One thing puzzled me - it states that Sheikh Mansour chairs the investment company which owns Etihad. I'd thought this was true of the other two smaller AD sponsors, but not Etihad or is he just quoting Conn's article which might well have made an error about this.
That's not true about Etihad. I think he's quoting Conn. Sheikh Mansour has no direct connection with Etihad.
 
Yeh, that would seem likely and I expect City to do that, win or lose at CAS. If we lose at CAS and then take it all to Court though, then the hammering we’re taking off the press at the moment, will be as nothing compared to what is to come. “Arrogant bullies who won’t admit that they cheated”, etc etc.
Also, the suspicious old coot in me, makes me wonder if the cartel would quite like us to dismantle UEFA in Court and leave them (the cartel) free to strike out on their own with a Euro league, with MCFC not invited.
One thing I do know, is that it’s all fucking stressful and, as a fan, my hatred for these people is off the scale. After 30 years of thin and thinner, I just wanted to savour the joy of watching my team play beautiful football and maybe win a trophy or two, but the bitter cnuts have done everything in their power to try and prevent that from the get go. I hope we destroy them, but I’m far from confident based on how subjective the law is

I suggested that a break away league will happen ……...paddypower put it on there advert lolol
 
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