UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
If I had the story, I wouldn't be still so uncertain what the ultimate outcome would be.

I'm sure City have not spent the last few years sat idle when it comes to knowing where the bodies are buried, however.

Whatever our club has or doesn't have, why would they want to telegraph it, especially so, when we have cited how unprofessional the leaks have been concerning this whole Uefa process investigation so far.

I want to believe there is a smoking gun, an exhibit A, but I don't see how that needs to be brought out at CAS, unless we take it further to the Swiss Courts.

You don't spend £20k a day on a lawyer who is an expert on legislative procedure, if you have an Uzi under the silks?

Whatever happens in the next few months, I don't envisage that will be the end of it.

PB clearly has his own sources for info and I respect that.

City don't need the media on this one. This is about people who know what the fuck they are talking about, the best in their chosen professions.

Blues need to remind themselves, most football media types say what they think, not what they know.

I've said this many times. I can drive a car relatively fast... Lewis Hamilton, does not it make.
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Is this Yoda Tolmie, now?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Here's how it works. Most journalists ideally require two sources to corroborate the story before they'll publish. As an example, a journalist gets a tip from a source that a player has done something that's very newsworthy. He then has to check it and goes to the player's club or agent.

I know of a real-life examples where the player's agent was approached about a potentially very damaging story for a well known player. The agent already knows of course because the player has told him. He persuades the journo either not to write the story or, if there's no possibility of keeping it out of the press, to tone it down significantly. To get that outcome they'll have to promise something. That could be something helpful, such as exclusive access to that agent's clients, another big story as an exclusive at a future date or some other inducement that's more useful to the journalist than publishing the story would be.

Or the reaction could be negative. The club/agent will firmly deny the story and may back that up with "print that and you'll be in court the next day". The journalist, his editor and the paper's legal team then have to make a decision and some are very risk averse. The phone hacking scandal possibly cost some papers nine-figure sums (£100m+) for example.

Or the club will refuse to comment and refer the journalist to their lawyers. One way or another, a few minutes later, the journalist is told or sent an email proving that there is an injunction or some other restriction in place against reporting x, y and z.

What will most likely have happened in the Liverpool hacking case is that the Times were briefed, probably by City in my view but could have been someone else with knowledge of the case, and were shown evidence to support the story. So they ran it. Every other paper sees that and contacts both City & Liverpool. We say "No comment" and Liverpool say "No comment and we'll sue if you publish". The editor of each paper will ask if the journalist has a direct source on this, to which the answer would be "No". So they can't run it as they couldn't defend it in court.

Just struck me that there's an interesting parallel to the UEFA FFP story, where UEFA may have little more than the Der Spiegel stories to go on. CAS isn't a court of course so they don't necessarily have the same burden of proof.
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Do I detect body parts above the parapet are marginally lower today?
 
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