UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[BobbyBoy]

The problem with arguing against FFP is UEFA will argue it was introduced to get a control on losses. They have the numbers to back it up.

Interesting article below, particularly this piece

FFP & EU Competition Law

The principles of EU competition policy are set down in Article 101 and Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. The key decision in the context of sporting rules and EU competition law is that of Meca-Medina.7 The ECJ confirmed the finding in Wouters & Others8 and found that the following must be taken into account when considering the effect rules set out by a regulatory body may have on competition:

• The context in which the rule was adopted or produces its effects and objectives;
  
  
• Whether the restrictions caused by the rule are inherent in the pursuit of its objectives;
  
  
• The proportionality of the restriction on competition in light of the objectives of the rules.

The middle one is backed up by financial results across Europe.

https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/features/item/the-deficiency-of-fairness-in-financial-fair-play

 

[Cornish_Blue]

So if we knock out RM, you can bet we will be getting a ban notice within the week.

 

[paulchapo]

The problem of course is that all clubs that go bust do so by borrowing to fund investment. Portsmouth and Leeds both borrowed heavily to buy players - it all went wrong when they couldn’t afford the repayments. The tinkering with FFP by the “old guard” to suit there own agendas rendered it as largely useless in the protection of football finances. FFP is nothing more than a protection racket for a cartel and I’m sure any court case that followed its evolution and its application of the twisted rules would not be able to conclude anything other than it being a restriction of trade. You’d only need to call Napoleon as a witness to prove the case.

This is correct and I'm sure he is on record as saying so. He also said the Italian power clubs approached him to relax certain rules so they could profit from that relaxation. Having had his ban upheld I'm sure he has an axe to grind as well.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Regardless of the outcome of the CAS appeal it is not all doom and gloom.

Sure the tourists will obviously fuck off back over to the Swamp to watch "Noddy and his Friends" in search of glory.

We can still depend on a loyal fan Base of die hard fans 35,000 + to pull us through stormy waters.

If as rumored Pep was only staying the extra 12 months anyway,Then we can start the rebuilding job the end of this season.He can go to Juventus in search of Champions League glory get to, spend 500,000 000 on the next up coming,Gudogan, Rodri,and Cancelo Whilst will be forced to be a bit more holistic in our approach.It will likely be 2 years until we are at a level to be challenging Europe elite again.

To those who say we will not be able to attract the right players ,absolute bollocks,we brought in Vinny/David SIlva without guarantees,2 City legends.

Every Cloud and all that..

It is not the end of the World.

We will still be there, no matter the weather,no matter the manager.

This will still depend on spending that this time stays within FFP limits.

 

[dadnlad]

i said the other week that i don't care about the ban and playing in europe ?????? but over the last 2 weeks the dirty scum media have done its job on manchester city

the thing that is spreading is the cheat cheat cheat chants by the other fans its getting louder and louder each week ? i normally dare care what other fans sing but the cheat chants are hurtful and its damaged our name and all the great work we have done, i even think if we turnover the ban and uefa drop its case the mud as stuck and damage the image of our club

was chatting to a united fan today he was going on about cheating so asked him how " well you get 400 million a year of Etihad were Arsenal get 20 million " wow where did you hear this oh in the paper, i replied " i wouldnt trust the date never mind the rest and 400 million was over 10 years and covered kit, stadium. campus, womens team and youth so under value if anything " the papers have done their job

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

It's an 8pm kick off for the Real Madrid home game ;-)

No problem - 15 mins to get back from Switzerland!

 

[FrankSwift1]

was chatting to a united fan today he was going on about cheating so asked him how " well you get 400 million a year of Etihad were Arsenal get 20 million " wow where did you hear this oh in the paper, i replied " i wouldnt trust the date never mind the rest and 400 million was over 10 years and covered kit, stadium. campus, womens team and youth so under value if anything " the papers have done their job

I use the. Ow we are banned are we...what for? Cheating. How did we cheat...? Ask for any detail and they cant give it.

They cant give an answer because nobody really know until after the appeal when I presume it will all come out. It good seeing them tie themselves in knots though trying to get a rise.

Laugh and take it all as banter and remember its only football at the end of the day.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I use the. Ow we are banned are we...what for? Cheating. How did we cheat...? Ask for any detail and they cant give it.

They cant give an answer because nobody really know until after the appeal when I presume it will all come out. It good seeing them tie themselves in knots though trying to get a rise.

Laugh and take it all as banter because they know fuck all about anything useful .

 

[ancoats]

was chatting to a united fan today he was going on about cheating so asked him how " well you get 400 million a year of Etihad were Arsenal get 20 million " wow where did you hear this oh in the paper, i replied " i wouldnt trust the date never mind the rest and 400 million was over 10 years and covered kit, stadium. campus, womens team and youth so under value if anything " the papers have done their job

this is my point ? city have a bigger fight than just proving we are innocent with uefa and the FFP, because the damage to our image has been dragged through the mud by the media and city have done little about it and bringing them to justice as well, innocent to proven guilty not a kangaroo court or those without sin cast first stone, city with our media team are cannon fodder a sitting duck and toothless ?? can you see united or liverpool or any big club letting the media walk all over them

its funny that so many fans believe what they read in the media until its their club ? with this city have let them throw mud at us and it has stuck big time ? many on here from the early days of the take over had the same feeling about the media team city have ? and questions have been asked before and lots or damaging insults ?? even this season with the mendy and B,silva tweet ?? city just settled for the punishment ? and what skysports did to us live on tv after the everton game was truly shocking and a witch hunt again city just did nothing

my hope of manchester city clearing our name is low to no chance of winning ? i have a feeling city will settle for a reduce punishment and let uefa and FFP and media free to walk all over us again, the damage as been done the image is blacken and only a innocent verdict would help in the future that you can not mess with manchester city anymore

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Exactly Ancoats