UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Dribble]

Question:

Hypothetically, if we're banned from the CL, does CL FFP still apply to us during the 2 year period?

I know the PL has its own version which we still have to adhere to, before anyone points that out.

 

[BobbyBoy]

Question:

Hypothetically, if we're banned from the CL, does CL FFP still apply to us during the 2 year period?

I know the PL has its own version which we still have to adhere to, before anyone points that out.

It's a 3 year cycle so yes it does.

 

[Dribble]

Ok guys, apologies if I’ve missed the answer already in this incredibly long thread. Could UEFA just say you know what, you can no longer play in our competitions full stop. I know it’s a take your ball home unlikely scenario but could they do it?

I think the invitation to take part in UEFA competitions is by association, not to individual clubs.

 

[Dribble]

It's a 3 year cycle so yes it does.

So UEFA would still scrutinise us outside of their competitions?

So wouldn't the sane apply to every club outside of their competitions: eg: Norwich, Watford, WHU etc???

 

[KS55]

Working in the Media team at City must be the easiest job in the world because every fucker can do it brilliantly and most could do it better than the professionals we employ.

Let's do it your way. Ban everyone who writes anything we don't like. Then they carry on writing things we like even less. If it's not legally actionable then what do you do?

Issues Management is the jargon, @Prestwich_Blue . Its not about legal action but a steady campaign to correct the falsities. Just patiently point out the errors to a journo and copy in his editor. Takes time and effort, but in the end editors get fed up with dealing with it and tell the journos to pull their horns in.

 

[Blue and still suffering]

Another excellent article by Martin Samuel regarding comments made by the Juve owner at the weekend regarding the protectionism of the elite clubs

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

So UEFA would still scrutinise us outside of their competitions?

So wouldn't the sane apply to every club outside of their competitions: eg: Norwich, Watford, WHU etc???

it's a 3 year window but you're only "reviewed" if you qualify.

 

[Dribble]

The problem with arguing against FFP is UEFA will argue it was introduced to get a control on losses. They have the numbers to back it up.

Interesting article below, particularly this piece

FFP & EU Competition Law

The principles of EU competition policy are set down in Article 101 and Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. The key decision in the context of sporting rules and EU competition law is that of Meca-Medina.7 The ECJ confirmed the finding in Wouters & Others8 and found that the following must be taken into account when considering the effect rules set out by a regulatory body may have on competition:

• The context in which the rule was adopted or produces its effects and objectives;
  
  
• Whether the restrictions caused by the rule are inherent in the pursuit of its objectives;
  
  
• The proportionality of the restriction on competition in light of the objectives of the rules.

The middle one is backed up by financial results across Europe.

https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/features/item/the-deficiency-of-fairness-in-financial-fair-play

But what have losses to do with City who are minted & can prove so? Why not just rein in debt as the original version was supposed to do?

There's a very easy way to deal with debt... An owner has to prove he has the money to spend, & unlike Leeds, their financial forecast diesn't include the uncertainty of having to finish top 3, & teach the CL quarter finals every year.

That's where Leeds fucked up, but what has that got to do with City?

 

[KS55]

I'm no lawyer but that sounds like a legally binding contract. Still doesn't mean it can't be challenged.

A contract to do something against the law or contrary to public policy is unenforcable. UEFAS rules are not worth the paper they are written on, but i doubt that City will challenge them at this stage.

 

[Dribble]

it's a 3 year window but you're only "reviewed" if you qualify.

So if you're banned, you can't qualify & therefore shouldn't be reviewed, & your rolling three year assessment period should be reset.

Great, we can spend a billion on the squad over two years then, as we prepare to return. We cam also offset high wages, with a stupidly high signing on fees too.

Essentially we can press the pause button & go back to playing one/two games a week whilst we build a Playstation Legends team. Mint :-)