UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
Status
Not open for further replies.
I'd already decided this was the case for me. Fans count for nothing. The game sold its soul to greedy individuals and institutions long ago, and even those governing the game
became rich and subsequently corrupt. The very fact that fanless football now seems acceptable, show you how this cancer of greed has completely consumed the body of the supporter.

In short, it's over and can only be saved and returned to the people by mass bankruptcy and financial implosion. If that happens, then one day I may return and feel once again it's my club, but in the meantime MCFC, like almost all the other top teams, is a branding exercise to earn money for blood sucking owners, media, agents and players and frankly they are welcome to it.

I read an article about 20 years ago that basically said that football clubs would always have to ensure that games always had to have live support as this made watching football on TV enjoyable. Perhaps only now, if we do go behind closed doors, will the ‘powers that be’ understand the logic of this.
 
Read again what Khaldoon has said about the procedure followed by UEFA and read what he has said about our evidence. Why don't you believe him? Then there's the double jeopardy angle to the case. Then there's the way UEFA applied completely different standards to the Juventus deal with Jeep. Oh and the treatment of PSG and the appointment of their chairmen which suggests strongly that there is a campaign against City specifically.Then there's the clause 101 of TfEU which makes FFP unlawful and unenforceable. Is that enough for you?
Yeah, but apart from all that, what have you got?
 
We also know Pep has his daughters living back in Barcelona with their mother, there was already a family disconnect before the passing of his own mother.

She is his first parent to pass and Pep is still a relatively young man of 49, four years older me, I certainly don't know how I will feel when one day the sad reality happens for my own parents.

I am certain Pep is up for the fight of another season and he is a man of absolute integrity.

However, a culmination of events that nobody could have forseen have all come at once - on and off the field.

I have been going to the football since the age of three with my dad but my appetite and sheer apathy for the game has never been lower, even when factored I must also try and earn a living from it.

Most people who have ever known me will define me as City daft but a man who always put his family first.

If you are Pep Guardiola, with everything that entails, plus the money to do everything on your own terms, he must surely have questioned whether the time might be right to take stock?

My admiration will be huge if he returns re-energised and up for the long-term job of keeping us at the forefront of the game.

But if he wants to cash his chips in, it wouldn't be as a big a shock as it would have been just three months ago.

My admiration would remain the same.


Hi TH,
I've seen the story about his wife a few times and the one I saw, countered with the fact that she had ben away from her business (which is based in Barcelona) for a long time and she needed to sort stuff out, and that her return home was tempory and only took one child with her, had you heard that too?
As you say, I too would understand, if he felt he needed to take another break. He's been great, and I don't think any manager will stay, at any club, for years anymore. It's our club and he's been on our journey for a short while, and he has my respect, for that.
 
I'd like to like this post BSHR, but although I agree with what you are saying what yo have done is highlight the problem or conundrum for a lot more than myself, I would think.
I'm at the stage where the problem is the genie is well and truly out of the bottle regarding professional football. Stuff we always knew was going on, but just like Trump in America, it's not even hidden anymore. I want not only UEFA reformed but the powers behind it aka G14 ripped a new one. Maybe it'll be different when football actually starts again, but currently I don't think I have n interest in watching either the conclusion of this year's fake league, or us participating in any of UEFA's competitions again, until we have destroyed them.

That's not football. I shouldn't feel like that about the sport I played and supported all my life.
I don't like the ambivalence I am feeling towards City playing in their charade.

The damage is done.


I'm sure nobody on here will be surprised by the story breaking...

Three former German FA chiefs accused of World Cup corruption are to be let off today - because their trial has run out of time.

Beckenbauer was supposed to give evidence. Prosecutors claim a £6m payment to him was used as a bribe to gain the support of Qatari Fifa chief Mohammed Bin Hammam for Germany's successful 2006 World Cup bid.

Others in the dock included: Theo Zwanziger (Lawyer and former President of German FA) Wolfgang Nierbach Lawyer ( A former sports journalist former President of German FA) and Horst Schmidt (Bavarian Order of Merit 2005 and former DFB treasurer)

It was merely a coincidence that just a few years later the quid-pro-quo saw Qatar win the World Cup for 2022...

Trial opened March 9 but was stopped due to coronavirus. Yesterday's prosecution deadline means judges are to now dismiss the case.

This is what we are up against. Corruption right through the sporting and legal system.
 
Before we talk about the FFP which UEFA have implemented. Let's take the Premier League/FA to court over FFP in this country. When and if we win this case, then we stand a much better chance of winning our case against UEFA in the European Courts.
 
Hi TH,
I've seen the story about his wife a few times and the one I saw, countered with the fact that she had ben away from her business (which is based in Barcelona) for a long time and she needed to sort stuff out, and that her return home was tempory and only took one child with her, had you heard that too?
As you say, I too would understand, if he felt he needed to take another break. He's been great, and I don't think any manager will stay, at any club, for years anymore. It's our club and he's been on our journey for a short while, and he has my respect, for that.

I think that was the story City were keen to get in front of, certainly. It put an immediate block on any bullshit about their marriage being on the rocks.

They have been on a couple of romantic getaways, including the Maldives during one international break earlier this season.

I think only his son Marius decided to keep his dad company in Manchester, as he is also at a critical stage of his schooling.

The two daughters are at different stages - the oldest one was preparing for university this year and it also made sense for his youngest to go back with her mum.

No doubt his missus is a busy woman, although her own business will have been severely impacted, no doubt.

Arteta also left in December and there is dispute as to whether he was planning to bring in a new right-hand man - Kiddo is 71 and will probably be missing from the bench when the football does resume in whatever guise.

There are a lot of things Pep will surely be still weighing up?
 
I think that was the story City were keen to get in front of, certainly. It put an immediate block on any bullshit about their marriage being on the rocks.

They have been on a couple of romantic getaways, including the Maldives during one international break earlier this season.

I think only his son Marius decided to keep his dad company in Manchester, as he is also at a critical stage of his schooling.

The two daughters are at different stages - the oldest one was preparing for university this year and it also made sense for his youngest to go back with her mum.

No doubt his missus is a busy woman, although her own business will have been severely impacted, no doubt.

Arteta also left in December and there is dispute as to whether he was planning to bring in a new right-hand man - Kiddo is 71 and will probably be missing from the bench when the football does resume in whatever guise.

There are a lot of things Pep will surely be still weighing up?

Pep is an honourable man and I think he will want to keep on working at City at least until his contract ends but it is not just about him.

Kidd has brought continuity and Khaldoon will be looking at this as well as succession planning. Marwood is another who will need replacing. I do not think Viera matched up to expectations as a manager nor did Arteta. Vinnie may be the answer but there is still room for a young new coach to work with Pep and/or head up youth development in a Marwood role.
 
Pep is an honourable man and I think he will want to keep on working at City at least until his contract ends but it is not just about him.

Kidd has brought continuity and Khaldoon will be looking at this as well as succession planning. Marwood is another who will need replacing. I do not think Viera matched up to expectations as a manager nor did Arteta. Vinnie may be the answer but there is still room for a young new coach to work with Pep and/or head up youth development in a Marwood role.
Got to be careful with VK that we don't fall into the dipper KK trap just because we love him.
 
I'm sure nobody on here will be surprised by the story breaking...

Three former German FA chiefs accused of World Cup corruption are to be let off today - because their trial has run out of time.

Beckenbauer was supposed to give evidence. Prosecutors claim a £6m payment to him was used as a bribe to gain the support of Qatari Fifa chief Mohammed Bin Hammam for Germany's successful 2006 World Cup bid.

Others in the dock included: Theo Zwanziger (Lawyer and former President of German FA) Wolfgang Nierbach Lawyer ( A former sports journalist former President of German FA) and Horst Schmidt (Bavarian Order of Merit 2005 and former DFB treasurer)

It was merely a coincidence that just a few years later the quid-pro-quo saw Qatar win the World Cup for 2022...

Trial opened March 9 but was stopped due to coronavirus. Yesterday's prosecution deadline means judges are to now dismiss the case.

This is what we are up against. Corruption right through the sporting and legal system.

Corruption is only part of the story as a conseqence of a power struggle between old elite and new. Now we see as more things are exposed and come into the open.

There is a bigger picture and I believe City have judged that a PR tit for tat is not the best way to proceed. We have done our talking on the pitch and regardless what spin is put on our success, the facts speak for themselves. The selective hysteria behind the proposed Saudi takeover of Newcastle shows the old guard are on the back foot.

CFG are playing a long game to be judged by history. Coronavirus is definitely a game changer and will change any status quo.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.