UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Could we ask the twats to change "players" to "Lawyers"

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There's a difference in being found not guilty but prepubescent scrotes on Twatter posting "Oil Money FC" 10 seconds after every City post.

Theres also a difference between "we will accept nothing but total exoneration" and pragmatism lads, we'll never be exonerated anyway.

I always believe Tolmie posts what he's heard or thinks on good faith, but I did think it was a bit funny that he thought too many people had a vision of a glorious victory given his previous bullish comments, celebratory hall and oates videos etc. were a not insignificant part of creating that expectation in the thread.
 
@ProjectDriver

Some information is provided in sections 61-63 of Award_CAS_6298_internet.pdf as to what those articles A-92, A-93 & A-94 are and why they were admitted:

"The Panel noted that Exhibit A-92 is a publication in a newspaper and therefore a publicly accessible document that was not available at the time MCFC filed its Appeal Brief (i.e. 11 June 2019). The Panel also considered it appropriate for MCFC to keep the Panel updated on alleged further leaks to the media by UEFA considering the similar allegations already expressed in the Appeal Brief"

So A-92 is an article published in a newspaper about leaks from UEFA regarding City and the FFP Ban after 11th June 2019, we just don't know which one!

"A-93 and A-94 are letters sent by UEFA to MCFC on 11 and 29 July 2019 that were not available at the time of filing the Appeal Brief"

In section 63, as I read it as the letter sent on 29th July 2019 confirms a scoping document existed setting out how the accountancy firm were to audit City's accounts and that it had never seen shared with City. Ie City were never told what UEFA were investigating, so how could they defend themselves or participate?
 
@ProjectDriver

Some information is provided in sections 61-63 of Award_CAS_6298_internet.pdf as to what those articles A-92, A-93 & A-94 are and why they were admitted:

"The Panel noted that Exhibit A-92 is a publication in a newspaper and therefore a publicly accessible document that was not available at the time MCFC filed its Appeal Brief (i.e. 11 June 2019). The Panel also considered it appropriate for MCFC to keep the Panel updated on alleged further leaks to the media by UEFA considering the similar allegations already expressed in the Appeal Brief"

So A-92 is an article published in a newspaper about leaks from UEFA regarding City and the FFP Ban after 11th June 2019, we just don't know which one!

"A-93 and A-94 are letters sent by UEFA to MCFC on 11 and 29 July 2019 that were not available at the time of filing the Appeal Brief"

In section 63, as I read it as the letter sent on 29th July 2019 confirms a scoping document existed setting out how the accountancy firm were to audit City's accounts and that it had never seen shared with City. Ie City were never told what UEFA were investigating, so how could they defend themselves or participate?
Good spot.
 
@ProjectDriver

Some information is provided in sections 61-63 of Award_CAS_6298_internet.pdf as to what those articles A-92, A-93 & A-94 are and why they were admitted:

"The Panel noted that Exhibit A-92 is a publication in a newspaper and therefore a publicly accessible document that was not available at the time MCFC filed its Appeal Brief (i.e. 11 June 2019). The Panel also considered it appropriate for MCFC to keep the Panel updated on alleged further leaks to the media by UEFA considering the similar allegations already expressed in the Appeal Brief"

So A-92 is an article published in a newspaper about leaks from UEFA regarding City and the FFP Ban after 11th June 2019, we just don't know which one!

"A-93 and A-94 are letters sent by UEFA to MCFC on 11 and 29 July 2019 that were not available at the time of filing the Appeal Brief"

In section 63, as I read it as the letter sent on 29th July 2019 confirms a scoping document existed setting out how the accountancy firm were to audit City's accounts and that it had never seen shared with City. Ie City were never told what UEFA were investigating, so how could they defend themselves or participate?

You are Lord Pannick and I claim my prize ;-)

That section 63 scope document is an Ace
 
Thanks, P, that is very helpful because the longer this goes on and the more I think of it the flimsier the case against City seems to get. I do struggle to see how emails can be held to prove anything because they not in any way a legally binding statement of what was actually done and they're not even (as this makes obvious) a secure communication. In this case as well there seems a clear conflict between emails on the one hand and City's accounts and Etihad's statement on the other. I struggle to see what evidence UEFA can have which trumps ours. Any suggestions?!

Totally agree, seems to me that uefa are just running with this £8M p/a from Etihad. Hence their statement about overstating sponsorship, and the break even information in our accounts from 2012/16. Seems a very flimsy case at best.
 
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