UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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In that case, would someone like Pannick still be willing to go into bat (if the submissions of Uefa are not a good look for us) or more likely, there would be advisement from our counsel to settle before tomorrow.

Does bluffing and bartering really go on right until the moment a judge sits?

Obviously, on the flip side, Uefa will now have a fair idea where they stand (they are more constrained by the lobbying from other clubs)

If Pannick has pulled the plug on the basis you suggest, then it raises serious questions regarding the irrefutability of our irrefutable evidence......
 
Think we'll be exonerated because of dubious, biased and unsound process, evidence being ignored and double jeopardy (2017 settlement).
Wouldn't be surprised though if CAS kicked the case back to UEFA and City to sort out.
Wouldn’t the “5 year time limit” bar UEFA looking at the case again if it was kicked back to them??
 
In that case, would someone like Pannick still be willing to go into bat (if the submissions of Uefa are not a good look for us) or more likely, there would be advisement from our counsel to settle before tomorrow.

Does bluffing and bartering really go on right until the moment a judge sits?

Obviously, on the flip side, Uefa will now have a fair idea where they stand (they are more constrained by the lobbying from other clubs)
Bartering goes on even when the judge sits and the case starts. I was involved in a land case in Ireland, whose laws are more or less the same as English law. The other side were desperate not to go before the judge, so weak was their argument, but the ego of the defendant would not give in till he had to. He wouldn't come into court, the judge gave him a 15 minute break after which he was still trying to cut a cheap deal. The judge came back in, he had not appeared, unprecedented I was told, he was given a further 15 minutes and told the case would go against him after that. Lo and behold he came up with the money. So yes a deal could be struck on Monday Tuesday or Wednesdsy even after all the evidence has been heard in my opinion, and that would not surprise me.
 
The counter argument to that is why would City maybe wish to telegraph their counsel, who does it serve anyhow, outside of some gossip in the trade press and on here?

There is zero reason for City not to disclose who is representing us, again there would be zero reason for City to let it be widely circulated someone is representing us who is not, it will be reported as weakness and the usual prìcks in the press will report it as so.

No use really speculating until it is confirmed that Pannick is not taking the case, so hoping it is just a rumour.

I personally think it is a blow if he is not, but as someone said earlier the case may not need him and hopefully as you state Khaldoon is completely confident we will be totally cleared of all this búllshit.

As said many many times FFP is complete and utter bollocks and IMO its legality is the only thing that should be involving a court case tomorrow.
 
All the preview articles published in the last 24 hours, trade press, and otherwise, have stated that Lord Pannick is leading our defence. So if this rumour is true there will certainly be another media shitstorm over it. I hope it isn't true but nothing about this endless saga would surprise me.
 
Pannick's also an Arsenal fan I believe. And so is Phillipe Sands QC one of the regular judges at CAS. Joking aside, I do worry judge's football allegiances (which we know are uniquely deep seated) may jaundice deliberations.

Thats not what we wanted
 
If we do lose and the ban us upheld, i can't see how the PL can't not then be obliged to look again at any informatiom we submitted for their own version of financial play. It may be that we ars absolutely fine even with the worst case interpretation of the accounts, as the thresholds ste different, and it is all over. But if the outcome even insinuates that we deliberately mislead anyone then there will be some serious accusations to deal with, domestically, never mind in switzerland. And i struggle to imagine one will wait for the outcone if the other, we'll be stretched fighting all it in all sides.

It was reported that If the verdict is upheld by CAS, City would fall foul of Section J7 of the Premiership regulations which deals with clubs ‘Making false statements in connection with applying for a European club licence’.
 
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