UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[The Colonel]

That can’t be true. Google is the number one source for all credible information.

just like how if you google the Thames whale you can find multiple stuff referencing it as “Diane” the whale. Which was actually because me and my friends added the name to it’s Wikipedia page as a fake edit when we were drinking.

google is the be all and end all of information and NOT just a accumulator. And as such I believe any and all claim about our players wages.

I’d put some nonsense on John Noakes’ wiki page and when he died it was not only quoted as fact but often embellished by lazy journos when writing his obituary.

 

[kaz7]

Check out how Much KDB and Sterling earn per annum Particularly KDB, Hes Second to De Gea
So on those two alone, they are on Mega Bucks and have high Salaries

KDB £320,00 PW
Raheem £300,00 PW

That is maximum IF they hit all targets and are a rough amount out forth by the media unless you have seen their pay checks

It is well known ours are heavily target based contracts but the rags and dippers are not,what is reported is their basic salary

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Yes but then CAS would sue us and I’d probably sue @Prestwich_Blue and @tolmie's hairdoo for good measure

I've retained both GDM and BB2.0's legal team. I'm suing Ric, just in case.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Stop nicking my material.

I'm ever so sorry

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

No, but you yourself have said you don’t think further legal action from City would be successful anyway, and presumably UEFA’s lawyers would be singing from the same hymn sheet, and quite honestly do any of those plus points measure up when set alongside appeasing the cartel and averting the possibility of a breakaway super league?
I think the appointment of the new rag/dipper approved PL CEO, the announcement of the CL revamp with a qualifying period designed to exclude us, and the 2 year ban, are all component parts of the same game, which is to destroy us totally and utterly as a threat, not just in the short term, but permanently, and I don’t think obtaining justification for the actions of the IC and the AC, or taking a scalp, will be significant motivators for UEFA at all. Their prime motivator is doing what the cartel want and being allowed to continue to wield nominal authority over the European game as a result

Specifically about the potential CL revamp and the qualifying period, from what I've read and if the proposals were enacted it is based on a club’s domestic rankings of the previous four seasons i.e 2020/21-2023/24 for a commencement in 2024

Theoretically this should be a breeze if we are banned. However, future FFP failures or premier league points deductions might impact.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-new-champions-league-format-21940765

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/...motion-relegation-qualification-rules-2552369

 

[jimharri]

I've retained both GDM and BB2.0's legal team. I'm suing Ric, just in case.

Ah well, you'll be sound in that case. Everyone knows that Brookie's legal eagles are the canine's testes.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Specifically about the potential CL revamp and the qualifying period, from what I've read and if the proposals were enacted it is based on a club’s domestic rankings of the previous four seasons i.e 2020/21-2023/24 for a commencement in 2024

Theoretically this should be a breeze if we are banned. However, future FFP failures or premier league points deductions might impact.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-new-champions-league-format-21940765

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/...motion-relegation-qualification-rules-2552369

Bearing in mind that the new PL CEO was pre-approved by the rags and the dippers, and that they have already orchestrated a song and dance amongst our immediate rivals (the hateful 8), I’d say that if we cop for a reduced 1 year ban, then they will almost certainly brow beat the PL into at points reduction, particularly with a foaming press pack behind them. If we get the full 2 year ban, there’ll be no need, cos I doubt Kev, Bernie, Laporte etc, will be prepared to stick around for that long without CL football.

This CAS case really is shit or absolute bust

 

[nmc]

A scalp, certainty, no criticism in the judgment, an end of legal action and risk of higher challenge, justification for the actions of the IC and AC despite City's protestations, significant cash to the bottom line in a year when the Euros got cancelled (although I can't recall how it is split) ...should I go on?

See a lot more reasons for UEFA to want a settlement than City.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The complete dominance of the G14 teams in their respective Leagues - to the almost complete exception of every other team over the past decade - is why you hear UEFA and the clubs in question lauding the achievements of FFP at 'stabilising' club football.

The protectionism FFP enshrines in European football is why Juventus are just about to win their 9th on the bounce, PSG have just won their 7th of the last 8 Ligue 1 titles, Bayern have just won their 8th in a row, and over the last decade, Real Madrid and Barcelona have shared all bar one of the available La Liga titles on offer.

This is what they want, and the PL is an anomaly which the Rags and Liverpool are desperate to address - hence those two clubs alone being given the recent veto on the new PL Chief Exec, and strong evidence that representatives of those same two clubs at UEFA have been behind the current drive to ensure City are removed from the CL for good. They want a La Liga style PL, with the two swapping titles each year to present the illusion of competition.

We are seeing the era of the G14 claiming football as their own, and not a soul in the mainstream media seems remotely concerned enough to write so much as a single word about it. Which tells you all you need to know about their impartiality and the agenda they support.

It's worse really. I've had a look at 44 UEFA leagues across Europe. So for each 10 year period, there's a total of 440 titles available (10 titles x 44 leagues).

In the past 10 season period, across all 44 leagues, 163 different clubs won those 440 titles. Which means on average, those clubs were winning 2.69 titles.

In the 10 years prior to that, 179 different clubs won those 440 titles. Doesn't seem too big a difference on the face of it, 16 fewer clubs won a title, meaning the average number of titles per club was 2.45.

However, when you start looking at the most successful, you begin to see the trend.

So, let's look at how many clubs won 3/4 of the titles. In the last 10 years, 70 clubs have won 75% of the titles, so 70 clubs between them have won 330 titles. That's an average of 4.71 titles per club. In the prior 10 year period, it took 87 clubs to reach 330 titles, at an average of 3.79 titles per club. This means that titles were spread more evenly between clubs in the prior 10 years.

Let's now look at how many clubs it took to win half of the titles. In the last 10 years, 34 clubs have won 50% of the titles. That's to say, 34 clubs have between them won 220 titles in the past 10 years. That's an average of 6.47 titles per club. In the prior 10 years, it took 42 clubs to win 220 titles, at an average of 5.23 titles per club. This again shows that even in the most dominated leagues, the titles were spread more evenly between clubs.

So what does this show? A pretty clear trend to fewer and fewer clubs across Europe being able to win the title, and individual clubs becoming more dominant.

Some additional supporting stats:

Won at least 5 titles
Past 10 years: 32 clubs.
10 years prior: 26 clubs.

6 or more titles
Past 10 years: 22 clubs.
10 years prior: 18 clubs.

7 or more titles
Past 10 years: 18 clubs.
10 years prior: 5 clubs.

8 or more titles
Past 10 years: 12 clubs.
10 years prior: 2 clubs.

FFP, a tool for the trophy hoarders.

 

[M18CTID]

No, but you yourself have said you don’t think further legal action from City would be successful anyway, and presumably UEFA’s lawyers would be singing from the same hymn sheet, and quite honestly do any of those plus points measure up when set alongside appeasing the cartel and averting the possibility of a breakaway super league?
I think the appointment of the new rag/dipper approved PL CEO, the announcement of the CL revamp with a qualifying period designed to exclude us, and the 2 year ban, are all component parts of the same game, which is to destroy us totally and utterly as a threat, not just in the short term, but permanently, and I don’t think obtaining justification for the actions of the IC and the AC, or taking a scalp, will be significant motivators for UEFA at all. Their prime motivator is doing what the cartel want and being allowed to continue to wield nominal authority over the European game as a result

Fucking hell, you’re a right bundle of laughs you. You peddle the same line over and over again, and while many of us don’t doubt that there’s pressure on UEFA from certain individuals and clubs to punish us, you take the paranoia to a different level altogether (which is laughably ironic when you accused the 1894 Group of paranoia the other week for that display - I mean, what the fuck do you want an anti-UEFA display to say?). Even more bizarre is that your posts appear to imply that you’re of the view that we are guilty of what we’ve been accused of, so you can’t exactly go skriking that anyone and everyone is out to get us when you think we’re guilty as fuck anyway.

I’ll tell you something - if I ever feel the need to slit my wrists, I’ll just read one of your posts for extra motivation ffs!