Machiavelli
Well-Known Member
Yes but Uefa have a big old hard on for city and won’t give up easily. It’s not wrong to feel pessimistic about the whole situation and just like last time, they keep finding new ways and new rules to fuck us over
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Yes but Uefa have a big old hard on for city and won’t give up easily. It’s not wrong to feel pessimistic about the whole situation and just like last time, they keep finding new ways and new rules to fuck us over
That was my understanding too, I was just hoping some of the financial experts could say for certain.Usually, they say that fair value market is what City would get if the sponsor was not related. Example, you show that Air France would be happy to pay 80 M€ to take the succession of Etihad and it could justify the latter to pay the same sum.
Cretin eh, ok if I call you a supercilious twat then? I merely stated facts about PSG and their Chairman but all you do is defend Qatar when clearly there more questions to answer. You don’t want to bite the hand that feeds you but you are defensive in the extreme by not acknowledging corruption levied towards the Qatari ownership in acquiring sports rights. The World Cup going to Qatar is an absolute fucking joke and you know it, there is no reason historically or for the growth of the game game, the climate or the social and economic good of the game that it’s gone there, corruption at the highest level.No, says the person with knowledge of the situation. I’m no more a Qatari apologist than you or I are UAE apologists.
You’re just coming across as a know nothing cretin. You sound, towards Qatar and PSG, like Scousers and United fans do towards City and the UAE.
One would think that City fans, if anyone, would understand media bias and innuendo and not invent idiotic theories.
Thankyou Bluemeanster. Fecking Parry eh?Chairman and Chief Investigator
Yves Leterme (Belgium)
Members
Jacobo Beltrán (Spain)
Egon Franck (Germany)
Petros Mavroidis (Greece)
Damien Neven (Belgium)
Richard Parry (England) Former Liverpool CEO and Lifelong Liverpool fan
Konstantin Sonin (Russia)
Yves Wehrli (France)
Yes.The consenus of opinion is that Rick Parry has been the source of the UEFA leaks to the press in New York.
However Petros Mavroidis (Greece) has an office in New York and is listed by Uefa as serving in the Investigatory Chamber . He is a Greek national,and was recently quoted in the telegraph as telling CNN, that no final decision had been made in regard to City. Could this guy be UEFA's weak link and not Parry ???
You look at the names on that investigative committee, and it appears they are all high flying politico's, one from each nation, and you wouldn't think any of them will have any investigative skills to carry out the task set them.By following PSG case, they don't even know how to calculate fair market value in a reliable way.
What they did is they asked an auditing company to review the sponsorship and assess a value. PSG had the right to pick another auditing company from the ones validated by UEFA to assess the value.
The company paid by UEFA to sanction us said it is worth 30 M. The company paid by PSG not to be sanctioned said it is worth 70 M. Both with their very reliable tools and standards procedures. After deliberation, they decided to pick the 50 M€ value with a split result of 4 versus 3.
Their fair value market is bullshit. Look, just recently, Audi which is a stakeholder of Bayern Munich will pay 1 billion € over 12 years ( 60 M€ + bonus per year). But Audi is not considered as a related party. Does it mean that City and PSG can justify a contract around that value (or a bit lower) for the same kind of prestation ?
Usually, they say that fair value market is what City would get if the sponsor was not related. Example, you show that Air France would be happy to pay 80 M€ to take the succession of Etihad and it could justify the latter to pay the same sum.
I give the chances of City and UEFA being in cahoots at slightly less than a snowball in hell.
It's nice to believe we're in war with them and I partially hope so, but don't be naive to think it's not possible it's all a planned deal. Too much money is on the line there, background deals that minimize the bad things for both sides are very well possible. People are dying in thousands during the wars and leaders from the both sides are doing things in the background those that bleed down there don't have idea about.
UEFA is huge organization with loads of money and excellent lawyers. If we win this appeal, it's going to be a second time, after PSG, that they lose on procedural thing. They are ****s, but I don't think they are such amateurs.
Let's just hope this finishes well and by the wishes of our people who deal with it. Complete win would be matter of a pride, but whatever doesn't hurts us, I'm all for it.
I doubt it would be time barred. Uefa could legitimately argue that a re-hearing is just a continuation of a process started in time.If the CAS uphold our appeal, UEFA are fucked as far as the investigation goes. It's now time-barred.
Obviously we can't know what will happen, Courts can be perverse, but, if we do win, the real story begins. Questions have to be answered about who was leaking, why they were leaking and what UEFA have done about it. And, lastly, what do UEFA intend to do about the reputational damage their ineptitude has done to our brand.
I suspect there will be a number of other alleged breaches of their CFCB rules which we can all guess at but that's speculation and, unless we see the pleadings, we won't know the details of.
I'd really hope that, if we win or lose, a published judgement will throw a little light on things.