UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[BlueRain]

So if a sporting club stipulated only white players....?

Obviously that would be racism - let's not go there

What if the Russian athelete's banned from the Olympics argued that taking PED's was their "human right"???

I really want this to go City's way and I think it will, I was just asking if a law court could / would find FFP illegal?

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

I'm putting some blame with the club for getting us to the point where we now have to pray that CAS gets it right, which is by no means assured, or else we face some really bad consequences. I don't care what business you're in, if you let a dispute go far enough that you have to win an appeal or else you lose £150m or whatever in revenue plus suffer massive reputation damage, you probably fucked up somewhere along the way. I agree with all of what you're saying. FFP is garbage, it's unfair, maybe even racist, but I think we messed this up. We should've just handled it the first time around, or settled, or de-escalated it. It's a mess.

I think it was inevitable that one day UEFA would find an excuse to ban City. City were "destroying football" according to the old guard and the media. Somebody had to stop us. CITY BANNED FROM FOOTBALL FOR BEING TOO GOOD.

 

[Kenward Garg]

Spot on pal.

Cheers dude. Funnily enough, my respect and loyalty for this club grows stronger and stronger as this charade goes on. Spent my early days watching fellow blues signing "Swales out" and now; the club is a super-club in the middle of a political battle that could topple the corrupt cartel of football. Love it!

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

I don't read BBC websites for obvious reasons. Sorry to spoil your Sunday afternoon.

Any news outlet would suffice. Apology accepted.

 

[KS55]

Sources have said that the mood in the squad meeting on Saturday was 'defiant', with one describing the message as being along the lines of, “If UEFA don’t love us, f*** it, we’ll show them
(From City xtra)

 

[Parisian]

Your point on sponsorship agreed.
But as to your second point the tweet doesn't mention 'untruthful reporting of their financial situation', it refers to ' failing to co-operate' in the investigation' , an entirely different thing.

The failing to co-operate is the same thing. You have failed to co-operate by not giving them the full financial documents they wanted which is the breach of that rule for licensing.

City is saying they have been cooperating by giving all the necessary informations but obviously UEFA consider the football leaks as information City has tried to hide. On other news, you'll see that City has lied or has been charged for "deceit" (Conn article). It is all different terms that refer to the same breach.

 

[SWP's back]

I am as sceptical as anyone about conspiracy theories but what can't be disputed is that Abu Dhabi and Qatar are on different sides in a very bloody war in the Middle East at present

Yes, it can be disputed as it’s not actually true at all. They’re both on literally the same side in the only bloody war going on in the Middle East that either are involved with (Yemen) as they’re both part of a Saudi led alliance that backs the government against Iranian backed rebels.

Unless you’re aware of another bloody war that no one’s informed me about.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Cheers dude. Funnily enough, my respect and loyalty for this club grows stronger and stronger as this charade goes on. Spent my early days watching fellow blues signing "Swales out" and now; the club is a super-club in the middle of a political battle that could topple the corrupt cartel of football. Love it!

Think I’ve found a Bluemoon soulmate / Bromance lol

 

[ayia napa blues]

https://apple.news/AcvKf8csaNCKEbm8UNOh3IA

Piece in the Guardian that is well written. Buckle up boys and girls, this is going to get interesting.

I've been saying this for years no way will we or any other big name get banned .

UEFA know it's the end of them if we do.

On champs league weeks we play more lucrative friends / tournaments again the best from the far East, usa, central America and throw into that any big name that wants a slice of the pie Celtic, rangers , a.c. Milan, with out UEFA taking their slice , all sponshership money going straight to the club's.

It would be the start of a break away league

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

We are owned by one Sheikh. One of about 500 in the UAE. Similarly what's the connection with the PRC?

Ubtech and China sports capital, connected to the Chinese government bought shares a couple of years back. Do you not remember Xi Jinping having his picture taken with Aguero when they announced it?

Mansour is the deputy prime minister of the UAE so I think he has some pretty interesting contacts on speed dial. Don’t fuck with peoples investments Uefa.

 

[Len Rum]

Fed up of all this debate and arguing.
Off to the Brexit thread for some r & r.

 

[Blue Hefner]

This is going to get interesting for sure...

It sounds from the rumblings that the club are arming for all out legal war with UEFA and a lot of posters seem to think that if we go to a "traditional" law court then FFP will be binned (I really hope so)

But is there any precedent for a law court ruling on a sporting bodies regulations?

From a business point of view FFP is surely illegal - like other blues I agree that a rule that stops an owner from investing in his own business breaks international law (I think?)

But from a sporting point of view a ruling body like UEFA can impose any rules they want... And any club wanting to participate in that sport / competition has to abide by those rules? SO if they brought out a rule saying that all players had to wear odd socks then they would have to? (stupid example I know)

So I have no way of knowing how it will play out in a court (if it gets that far) I hope FFP get's folded into a nice package and UEFA have to bend over and spread their cheeks to "file it" ;)

I broadly agree with what you are saying but I think we can safely say that at this stage FFP is not in the dock and not at all up for discussion at CAS

I listened to the 93:20 pod* and from what was said on there and from what appears to have come out City are not arguing the rights/wrongs as they don’t believe they have to. City will argue 1) the time period of any alleged wrong doing is covered in the previous settlement and also 2) even if it’s not, UEFA’s own statue of limitations of 5 years prevents them from investigating, never mind charging and sentencing a club

City appear to be in this for all or nothing. City better be right!

I find it inconceivable that a club this big with the recourses they have to be this wrong. Putting to one side the rather unprofessional and crass emails, the rules are the rules and the settlement, time periods etc should have been fully understood by anyone at the club with any dealings with the legal and financial matters.

I think UEFA have pushed this due to political pressure and hoped City would fold, come to the table and negotiate this out. City in their belief didn’t need to because they think they are in the right but there are plenty of people sat in prison who ‘believed’ they did no wrong

Like I said, City better be right.....

*well worth the subscription fee

 

[Centurions]

Any news outlet would suffice. Apology accepted.

Or they could just ask on a City website perhaps.

 

[malg]

Fuck me there's a lot of happy journos out there. We're taking some right fucking pelters. The Times are loving it. Saying none of our achievements are worth anything now as we're just cheats.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

I've been saying this for years no way will we or any other big name get banned .

UEFA know it's the end of them if we do.

On champs league weeks we play more lucrative friends / tournaments again the best from the far East, usa, central America and throw into that any big name that wants a slice of the pie Celtic, rangers , a.c. Milan, with out UEFA taking their slice , all sponshership money going straight to the club's.

It would be the start of a break away league

For old times sake could they call it The Full Members Cup? Count me in!

 

[spacecadet]

Any news outlet would suffice. Apology accepted.

The pleasure was all mine.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Sources have said that the mood in the squad meeting on Saturday was 'defiant', with one describing the message as being along the lines of, “If UEFA don’t love us, f*** it, we’ll show them
(From City xtra)

I think that has been evident with the premier league and VAR decisions this year as well, I expect on Wednesday night to be electric atmosphere, the players will hopefully respond by taking West Ham apart and then when Madrid arrive it will get ramped up even more. I’d just love it for Pep to announce a contract extension at his press conference on Tuesday when someone asks him if he’s going.

 

[sir baconface]

Obviously that would be racism - let's not go there

It would indeed, my point being there are certain standards bigger than any institution.

You’d agree that UEFA could, should and would be prosecuted if they operated a ”whites only” policy? Well maybe, just maybe, anti-competitive practices could run foul of EU law if seriously put to the test.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I've been saying this for years no way will we or any other big name get banned .

UEFA know it's the end of them if we do.

On champs league weeks we play more lucrative friends / tournaments again the best from the far East, usa, central America and throw into that any big name that wants a slice of the pie Celtic, rangers , a.c. Milan, with out UEFA taking their slice , all sponshership money going straight to the club's.

It would be the start of a break away league

Whatever happens, things are only going to get worse. If the Champions League stays in its current form with massive amounts of money and dodgy rules preventing anyone outside of the cartel from competing, it has no legitimacy as the most prestigious competition. But if UEFA are fucked off, then it's likely that any replacement will be even worse, with some sort of invitation-only alternative (perhaps with the illusion of qualification) purely designed to make money for the already rich clubs. And make no mistake, our owners would be as much in favour of that as anyone else provided we were on the right side of it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sane is off anyways & Sterling fuck me he has just hit the wall..

I would put my mortgage on him being closely behind Leroy wanting out over this shit.

It's big money & it looks like we are going to need it..

We have options nobody is bigger than the club

Youngsters have to be given some games otherwise we have more Sancho's on our hands.

People dont realise the bigger picture & problem we have here.

I wouldnt be surprised if contracts are worth jack shit if found guilty???