UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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The first point is correct; they’ve bought a massive advertising platform to project their State and it’s airline, via the global exposure of the Premier League. There’s not a chance they will dilute that by bringing in external primary sponsors.

For that reason, people need to stop taking this FFP situation personally; it’s a direct conflict between UEFA and Abu Dhabi - if it was Stoke City or Coventry City that they bought instead, they’d still be going after them.

FFP has actually been brilliant for the game; the ‘cartel clubs’ people alledge it was spawned to protect have been nowhere near winning the league or Champions League (the Milan clubs, United, Arsenal etc) since it’s implementation. Self-sufficient clubs like Atletico, Dortmund, Liverpool and Spurs have all gotten to European finals, while Monaco and Ajax have also made a big impact on the competition. Real couldn’t spend any proper money for circa 5 years, Leicester and Monaco have won league titles....it’s been a fantastic time for clubs with smaller budgets - but shrewd sporting strategy - to make an impact.
Why dont you fuck off back to RAWK tbh. Sick of your poisonous shite. You joined just couple of weeks ago and have had hardly anything good to say about City. Just fuck off and concentrate on your own team tbh

And it's clear you know fuck all about FFP and how it is used/implemented, those teams threatening to win things is exactly WHY it was brought in.
 
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The first point is correct; they’ve bought a massive advertising platform to project their State and it’s airline, via the global exposure of the Premier League. There’s not a chance they will dilute that by bringing in external primary sponsors.

For that reason, people need to stop taking this FFP situation personally; it’s a direct conflict between UEFA and Abu Dhabi - if it was Stoke City or Coventry City that they bought instead, they’d still be going after them.

FFP has actually been brilliant for the game; the ‘cartel clubs’ people alledge it was spawned to protect have been nowhere near winning the league or Champions League (the Milan clubs, United, Arsenal etc) since it’s implementation. Self-sufficient clubs like Atletico, Dortmund, Liverpool and Spurs have all gotten to European finals, while Monaco and Ajax have also made a big impact on the competition. Real couldn’t spend any proper money for circa 5 years, Leicester and Monaco have won league titles....it’s been a fantastic time for clubs with smaller budgets - but shrewd sporting strategy - to make an impact.

You're consistent, I'll give you that.

Consistently wide of the mark.
 
Why dont you fuck off back to RAWK tbh. Sick of your poisonous shite. You joined just couple of weeks ago and have had hardly anything good to say about City. Just fuck off and concentrate on your own team tbh

Hope he doesn't meet you on a dark night on Hyde road -;)
 
Thanks. There's more substance to it than I remembered, but it's still highly selective quoting that can't be taken to be remotely conclusive in the absence of other related correspondence and thus could be completely misleading.

Exactly. It still doesn't mean it came out of Mansour's back pocket. It could mean ADUG using their contacts to secure the money from ADEC. And as you point out, it's just one of perhaps many items of e-mail correspondence and they've conveniently picked out that one. For the life of me, I can't think why!
 
Sorry but FFP has had nothing to do with those teams getting to European finals. FFP although not invented by, it definitely was hijacked by the cartel clubs to protect their status from "new money". If it wasn't, why is it nothing to do with debt when it obviously should be, as it was pitched to everyone from the beginning?

It has maybe made some club owners more responsible(or has it just given some an extra excuse to penny pinch like they already wanted to do?) but I thought I read recently that it's made no difference across the board on the amount of clubs building up debt and even those going into administration.
Absolutely. I read recently that Barca and RM currently have more than a billion pounds debt between them. Platini said running on debt was cheating, but G14 soon subverted his plan.
 
That was a bent deal anyway. It was signed off without the knowledge of the General Motors board by a marketing executive (Joel Ewanick) who was immediately fired without compensation for exceeding his authority. GM's official comment was brief. "Ewanick failed to meet the expectations that the company has for its employees." $70 million in the first season (2014-15) rising 2.1% each subsequent season (to 2020-21) plus $37.2 million in "fees" during the two seasons BEFORE the actual sponsorship started. All signed off in 2012 just 3 years after GM went bankrupt and had a $50 billion bailout from the US taxpayer, $11.2 billion of which was never recovered and had to be paid by US taxpayers.
And and and, the deal Ewanick signed didn't give them the rights to shirt advertising, that was agreed later by the rags when GM begged them.
 
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