UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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johnnytapia said:
Back to your original point: you seem very assured we have the very best people on this and that we'll win, no question. I'm not so sure and my gut instinct is as follows: someone, somewhere, hasn't been quite as diligent as they should have been and this has subsequently left us open to the court case. You're right, we have some very, very smart people at the top. It's the ones underneath that worry me.
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Its the cockroaches like david gill which worry me.very powerful.behind the scenes...he lost the battle in Manchester....so quietly sought more power abroad.
Its bin a very gud wk for influential, media savy,redscum.........in the background.
 
The perfect fumble said:
That's a question, not an answer.

You stated....


Really, do we? How the club is run is immaterial to the challenge Khaldoon faces now. Last time he took a "pinch", now they're back again, from a cursory analysis, if one were forced to come to a conclusion, that now looks like a mistake, either way nothing Khaldoon has done inspires confidence that he'll do the right thing now, whatever the right thing is in these circumstances.

Khaldoon is smart, very smart, but he's a powerful Gulf Arab and his boss is an even more powerful Gulf Arab, in their business dealings they look medium to long term, they're ambitious, up to a point. they're bold with a hint of caution, but more than anything else they avoid conflict, they want to be on the inside, they don't like taking on the powers that be.

I like Emiratis very much and I liked doing business with them. I think Khaldoon is a great Chairman, but dealing with these corrupt Euro sharks? I'm not sure it's his cup of tea.
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NO !! Khaldoon did NOT take a pinch.It was the Club who took the pinch and no doubt it was after a lot of not only soul searching but advice from their Legal Team.Pisses me off no end when people make assumptions that in their opinion certain people at the our Club don`t have a spine.
 
They are not investigating us for failing FFP, as we have passed every test since we ‘took the pinch’
They are not investigating where our revenues come from, as that is set out in our accounts,which are available to anyone.
What they are investigating is where our sponsors got the money from to sponsor us.
If it is an unrelated sponsorship deal then it is way beyond the remit of uefa to ask from where the money came. They cannot ask the sponsors and they have no right to see their accounts.
If it is related party sponsorship deal, then the only influence that uefa can exert is to decide on fair market value, which, as far as I know, they did.(see Volkswagen/Audi and Allianz and their ownership/sponsorship deals)
If they want to make a case out of a state airline being financed by a state government then good luck.(see Aeroflot and Emirates and their sponsorship deals)
In the former (unrelated) case they can do nothing.
In the latter(related) case, they have done all they can.
Unless I’m missing something.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
There has to be a limit as to how much a relatively junior employee would have their actions imputed to the club. That is a matter of common sense, as well as law.
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True, but there's something niggling me that somebody (or bodies), fairly high up the chain has (have) left us susceptible. I've no evidence, nothing I've seen or heard, just my hunch. I think back to the time we ballsed up over academy players and got hit with a 300k fine. Someone as savvy as Garry Cook got undone by one hit of the "reply all" button. Hope I'm wrong and that we sail through this. I think we're in for a very protracted battle.
 
Marvin said:
It's not a new round of financing. It's UEFA reviewing the same period due to the email hack releasing additional information from that time period.
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I wonder if uefa think that "his highness" refers to our owner. People on here who are knowledgeable about Abu Dhabi etiquette refute that entirely.
 
We've made the BBC 10 O'clock news. Not for our performances on the pitch of course. It appears Vinny has been asked to comment on the investigation whilst on a Fund raising event tonight.
 
I hope the bung department at the club will make sure the investigating officer has the right encouragement to reach a conclusion that favours us. That's how all this works isn't it. Or am I getting mixed up with the world cup.
 
LucahArchie10 said:
Depends where & what investigation leads to??

If they are checking payments to & from our club then yes it may lead to a ban.
If we have paid & inflated sponsorship, spent way beyond our means for the 2nd time UEFA have the right to either ban us from competition, fine & give a transfer ban.

The UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations(FFP) were established to prevent professional football clubs spending more than they earn in the pursuit of success and in doing so getting into financial problems which might threaten their long-term survival.[1] They were agreed to in principle in September 2009 by the Financial Control Panel of football's governing body in Europe (Union of European Football Associations – UEFA). The regulations provide for sanctions to be taken against clubs who exceed spending, over several seasons, within a set budgetary framework. Implementation of the regulations took place at the outset of the 2011–12 football season.[2] The severest penalty is disqualification from the European competitions.[3] Other penalties included fines, the withholding of prize money, and player transfer bans.
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Uefa shelves proposals to impose a transfer ban on clubs that breach its financial fair-play rules
Uefa has shelved proposals to impose a transfer ban on clubs that breach its financial fair-play rules amid concerns that its planned penalties will be legally unenforceable, or face challenges from individual players.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...hat-breach-its-financial-fair-play-rules.html
 
oakiecokie said:
NO !! Khaldoon did NOT take a pinch.It was the Club who took the pinch and no doubt it was after a lot of not only soul searching but advice from their Legal Team.Pisses me off no end when people make assumptions that in their opinion certain people at the our Club don`t have a spine.
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Occasionaly it makes sense to walk away from a fight, even though you think you will win. Sometimes the fallout has to be considered.
 
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