UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
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Marvin said:
The full quote is:

The Directors are entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body.

Are they referring there to CAS, or UC of UEFA? Minor point. Would you refer to UEFA's UC as independent? More so than the IC I guess but more likely they are referencing CAS?
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Or..don't fuck with the big boys.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I assume that the AC decision making is independent of UEFA's ruling council. I assume that UC means AC.
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Yes. I had Upper chamber in my mind.

I was just wondering if this quote in the Annual report specifically references the pending decision of UEFA, or whether it means that City are expecting a sanction of sorts from UEFA which we intend to take to CAS.

I guess there's no way of knowing. I suspect they were referring to CAS as the annual report was probably produced a while ago and is unlikely to be contemporary comment.
 
Marvin said:
The full quote is:

The Directors are entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body.

Are they referring there to CAS, or UC of UEFA? Minor point. Would you refer to UEFA's UC as independent? More so than the IC I guess but more likely they are referencing CAS?
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I suspect their use of judicial means they're not referring to any of the ****s at UEFA
 
KS55 said:
The words seem to suggest that, if Uefa rule against us, we will go to CAS or further.
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I know that, but BBC journalists had referenced it, and I am wondering if it's a current statement of optimism in regards to the reports that UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber is now thought unlikely to ban City, or whether the independent judiciary they refer to is CAS.
 
I think it was more a heavily weighted comment that if the AC is neutral, City are fine.
Equally, that If the AC come up with a punishment, it means they're not neutral.
 
citizen_maine said:
I suspect their use of judicial means they're not referring to any of the ****s at UEFA
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AC is supposed to be made up of financial and legal experts as opposed to the investigatory chamber who are UEFA staff. I was wondering if this comment was relevant to recent news from the Athletic or whether it's just a general comment about the validity of City's claim.

I think MillionMilesAway is probably right.
 
Marvin said:
I know that, but BBC journalists had referenced it, and I am wondering if it's a current statement of optimism in regards to the reports that UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber is now thought unlikely to ban City, or whether the independent judiciary they refer to is CAS.
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Yes, I initially thought that the directors actually KNEW what the decision was going to be, but @Marvin put doubts in my mind. We really don't know, but Khaldoon and this report are bullish. So I believe one way or another we will win.
 
Marvin said:
AC is supposed to be made up of financial and legal experts as opposed to the investigatory chamber who are UEFA staff. I was wondering if this comment was relevant to recent news from the Athletic or whether it's just a general comment about the validity of City's claim.

I think MillionMilesAway is probably right.
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The operative word there is 'supposed'. I think our statement was a less than subtle dig at their lack of professionalism
 
KS55 said:
Yes, I initially thought that the directors actually KNEW what the decision was going to be, but @Marvin put doubts in my mind. We really don't know, but Khaldoon and this report are bullish. So I believe one way or another we will win.
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The full quote in the annual report is just a copy/paste (99%) mash-up from the club statements from March 2019 and May 2019. So I don't think its appearance in the annual report means much.

From annual report: The Directors welcomed the opening of a formal UEFA investigation as an opportunity to bring to an end the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of Club emails. The Directors are entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body.

From March 2019: "Manchester City welcomes the opening of a formal UEFA investigation as an opportunity to bring to an end the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of City emails."
https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/club-news/2019/march/man-city-club-statement-uefa

From May 2019: "Manchester City is entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body."
https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/club-news/2019/may/man-city-club-statement-uefa-response
 
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Quite a bit being made of City's appeal being rejected - yet few news outlets mention that you can only appeal when something is formally against you. This makes me laugh. Backwards media reporting, at best
 
acton28 said:
Quite a bit being made of City's appeal being rejected - yet few news outlets mention that you can only appeal when something is formally against you. This makes me laugh. Backwards media reporting, at best
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Quite. Like having an appeal against a guilty murder verdict rejected because you've not been accused or convicted of murder. This level of journalism would be funny if it wasn't so sinister. Clear attempt to inflict any damage possible before the 'bad news' breaks that city are not guilty and the whole thing was bollocks.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Quite. Like having an appeal against a guilty murder verdict rejected because you've not been accused or convicted of murder. This level of journalism would be funny if it wasn't so sinister. Clear attempt to inflict any damage possible before the 'bad news' breaks that city are not guilty and the whole thing was bollocks.
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They'll consider all the investigations/slurs a success against City - totally took the shine off a treble that'll eventually be looked back on as a monumental moment in football, can't wait to watch that season on Sky football gold while I'm at the gym.
 
Brendan110_0 said:
They'll consider all the investigations/slurs a success against City - totally took the shine off a treble that'll eventually be looked back on as a monumental moment in football, can't wait to watch that season on Sky football gold while I'm at the gym.
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They knew exactly what they were doing and our domestic treble win something that slur Alex once said was impossible was swept under the rug. But as you said in years to come when all this ffp bullshit is long gone it will be looked back upon as an amazing achievement guess we’ll just have to wait eh
 
Stortz said:
They knew exactly what they were doing and our domestic treble win something that slur Alex once said was impossible was swept under the rug. But as you said in years to come when all this ffp bullshit is long gone it will be looked back upon as an amazing achievement guess we’ll just have to wait eh
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Hope I don’t have to wait too long I ain’t getting any younger.
 
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