UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Ffs...you’re absolutely correct
He’s Catalan
They still like a fight though!

Shame they now lean towards pacifism :(

 

[bluemoon32]

they withdrew from the competition

Thanks, i obviously got my wires crossed

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I know this isn't really relevant or how FFP works, but one funny thought about City being portrayed as the wild spenders and 'financial dopers' of Europe - by the head of La Liga, etc ... is that with United's transfers and wage bill being higher ... in reality, we aren't even the biggest spenders in our own town.

the squeaky clean Real Madrid wouldn’t say that surely

 

[KS55]

Just waiting for the PL to bring a case to try and strip us of titles and Cups now.

On what grounds? UEFA'S FFP rules do not apply to the prem league. If a club decides not to enter UEFA competitions, they can spend whatever they like within their own league's rules. Cups is a matter for EFL and FA.

 

[Sky Blue]

Its a shameful and childish thing to say but i will be happy if a few of these ****s get attacked and ran out of the ground over the coming months.

Not shameful and childish at all. Really hope it happens, starting with number 1 cûnt Simon Stone.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I suspect there was no coincidence in the timing between the release of the CAS conclusions and then Uefa's punishment.

For me, this is all a show, not just for the peanut gallery, but for the actual clubs who have lobbied and pressed for punishment.

I remember the last time a punishment was delivered and we eventually got to hear about the deals and levels of back-channeling which took place

Call it quiet optimism or wishful thinking on my part, but CAS is exactly the public forum which still suits both City and Uefa.

Uefa have aired this from the rooftops, it has served all its purposes.

I don't believe Cerefin has come to our games by chance, nor do I believe Khaldoon has been sat idly on his hands.

Uefa can have this whole thing off their backs, once and for all.

They are all about attracting more money into the game, not taking it out.

At CAS, I will not be surprised to see where all the smoking guns are exposed, which people are implicated, how many procedural failures there have been along the way.

Even City's official response last night did not smack of City's usual MO. Yes, there are exceptional circumstances, but all the same, ours is a regime which does not air its dirty linen in public, we keep our powder dry.

A couple of other points, it's an absolute certainty that the wider media will be further emboldened to use this period to try and book end every bit of agenda and lobby for the Premier League and other clubs to try apply retrospective action of their own.

This is a period in when the club and supporters need to take record of who comes out from under those rocks.

Secondly, in terms of a direct impact to finances. I have been assured we won't feel a ripple. We recently took £390m into the group and this can be distributed across it as we see fit.

Lastly, be wary of The Athletic. They were the ones peddling we would not be punished and yet they have now come full circle, pushing the Premier League to stick the boot in.

This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

 

[Bandofblues]

I am not looking forward to waking up and having to sift through 453 pages haha.

If someone can give a summary when we hit page 1575 or so at around 8am I'd be grateful.

City and UEFA are playing poker.
One of them is holding a pair of two's and we don't know what the other has.
We also don't know which one of them is the one with the pair of two's - could even be both of them.

UEFA have just gone 'all in'

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

On what grounds? UEFA'S FFP rules do not apply to the prem league. If a club decides not to enter UEFA competitions, they can spend whatever they like within their own league's rules. Cups is a matter for EFL and FA.

Papers having a field day we’ll end up in league 2 etc.

 

[bellwhaft]

So when do we start proceedings against this?

If it's in court then until the CAS has made a decision then no-one can uphold a ban. We also need to go beyond sports courts and take it to the European high court if need be. Slander, illegal evidence, unfair trial, restriction of trade, there must be a few charges we can fight uefa with on this.

I believe it's CAS first, then final resort is The Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I suspect there was no coincide in the timing between the release of the CAS conclusions and then Uefa's punishment.

For me, this is all a show, not just for the peanut gallery, but for the actual clubs who have lobbied and pressed for punishment.

I remember the last time a punishment was delivered and we eventually got to hear about the deals and levels of back-channeling which took place

Call it quiet optimism or wishful thinking on my part, but CAS is exactly the public forum which still suits both City and Uefa.

Uefa have aired this from the rooftops, it has served all its purposes.

I don't believe Cerefin has come to our games by chance, nor do I believe Khaldoon has been sat idly on his hands.

Uefa can have this whole thing off their backs, once and for all.

They are all about attracting more money into the game, not taking it out.

At CAS, I will not be surprised to see where all the smoking guns are exposed, which people are implicated, how many procedural failures there have been along the way.

Even City's official response last night did not smack of City's usual MO. Yes, there are exceptional circumstances, but all the same, ours is a regime which does not air its dirty linen in public, we keep our powder dry.

A couple of other points, it's an absolute certainty that the wider media will be further emboldened to use this period to try and book end every bit of agenda and lobby for the Premier League and other clubs to try apply retrospective action of their own.

This is a period in when the club and supporters need to take record of who comes out from under those rocks.

Secondly, in terms of a direct impact to finances. I have been assured we won't feel a ripple. We recently took £390m into the group and this can be distributed across it as we see fit.

Lastly, be wary of The Athletic. They were the ones peddling we would not be punished and yet they have now come full circle, pushing the Premier League to stick the boot in.

This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

CAS conclusion?

 

[bluemoon32]

Would be great if he says oh thanks for the reminder pulls out a piece of paper signs it and says that the next 5 years sorted

Would be great but i think if we are banned from the CL for 2 years and it's proved we've done wrong then he'll walk away.
Don't think Pep will trust the powers that be at the club again

 

[bavarian blue]

Like it, I shall aim to do the same WW :)

I am the same, I get all my info from this forum.

 

[Groke]

Fully expecting a Chelsea vs Barcelona style fix against Madrid.

Well, the UEFA officials and match officials should take a good hammering, along with any members of the press who are brave enough to be there. Let's get banned for something real.

 

[KS55]

Chin up all.

This ain't over, and even if CAS don't overturn it we'll carry on as a club

Yep. York away will be fun. How will they fit in our 40,000?

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Thanks, i obviously got my wires crossed

it’s cool

 

[MCFC1993]

Can it be fast tracked? Surely this will be a very detailed and complicated case. Surely City could string out the CAS appeal much longer if strategically they decided that was in the best interests of the club.

They probably could but I assume we won't as any ban would be better sooner rather than later. Also I would assume we will try to make life a bit easier for the CAS to try and paint UEFA as the bad guys.

CAS will almost certainly want this dealt with before next season though. However, like it's been mentioned, there are courts beyond CAS that could delay the ruling even longer. So the club do have options in terms of a time frame.

Still expect an outcome before next season though.

 

[Gordyola]

A question for the legal experts, can we take this matter beyond CAS and if so what are the options?

No CAS is the end from their website
“Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.”

 

[HarrytheBlue]

In my mind’s eye, we win the thing and refuse to collect the trophy and players and fans celebrate together. Or David collects the trophy, turns it upside down and plants it on the head of UEFA’s chief arsehole.

 

[mrbelfry]

As no doubt Gary James will verify, it's just like the first decade of the last century City shafted by the esthablishment clubs. United will then sign our four best players for nothing and win loads of trophies

Our four best players, as I'm sure we'd all agree, are Bravo, Otamendi, Claudio and Nico

 

[Elbow beards]

Surely this can’t all be done by the end of season start of next CL then given usual timescale of legal proceedings? So we are most likely to okay in the comp one way of the other next year??

Not sure of timescales but I'm assuming if City drag it on after CAS (if they can) could be years. Anyone with better knowledge, please correct me.