UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Colin in your opinion if we win the case at cas do you think that will be the end of it or will we go for the jugular afterwards?

Difficult question to answer but interested in your opinion on this.
Without doubt, get through CAS, which is really a 'was due process followed?' procedure, we'll go for the throat -i.e. the legality of FFP.
 
That's not a defence though. We are in deep shit if that is the way we are appealing.

This has to be fought on what we have not done, not what others have.

Hypocrisy is everywhere in society, it is overlooked when it serves a purpose.
As I said mate, PART of our strategy, it shows UEFA setting a precedent and gives CAS a clear example and base to assess our the merits of our case, we’re building a picture.
 
I think that’s correct. CAS is about the process and procedure - is it fair and reasonable ( and does it align with uefa process and procedure?) and ultimately - is the sanction a reasonable response to the findings of the investigation. So we do have a few bites of the cherry in terms of procedure and we must be very guilty of serious wrongdoing to have a sanction as severe as the one awarded upheld.
I've been thinking about this scenario. What if UEFA have used (as we suspect and hope) a pile of rubbish, nonsense and untruths as the basis for this sanction. Also let's suppose that hypothetically, they have followed the correct procedure and process throughout, although they haven't from what we know. Surely it cannot be the case that because the process was followed but their evidence is incorrect that the sanction, or a slightly lesser one, is allowed to stand. At some point there must be a function where the validity of their evidence is looked at and interrogated.
 
Ha, this is a little different, bud, certainly in the grander scheme of things ;)

Only one outlet stated we would not receive any sanction, yet is now being cited by some people as authoritative because it is one of the few pieces to have a positive theme in recent days.

I'd expect The Athletic needs to be very positive right now.

I have no problem with the athletic, well no more than any other media outlet at the moment, but in the article that mentioned about the meeting with pep and the players on saturday it began with stating that the club execs had stipulated to the players in the most stringent terms the absolute requirement for a full and total lack of leaks to anyone outside the club regarding this matter. It then went on to state what had been said and by whom at said meeting....
 
That's not a defence though. We are in deep shit if that is the way we are appealing.

This has to be fought on what we have not done, not what others have.
In a court, precedent is quite important I'd say. If in an equivalent situation, one party has been dealt with leniently and the other not, then someone like CAS will take that into account in their judgement.
 
That's not a defence though. We are in deep shit if that is the way we are appealing.

This has to be fought on what we have not done, not what others have.

Hypocrisy is everywhere in society, it is overlooked when it serves a purpose.

This is my take too. We open with "other clubs have done similar and not been banned" and CAS state it's on a case by case basis and they are only in session to look at our appeal against UEFA and nothing else. Then our Lead Counsel swiftly asks for a recess...you get the picture ?
 
This is my take too. We open with "other clubs have done similar and not been banned" and CAS state it's on a case by case basis and they are only in session to look at our appeal against UEFA and nothing else. Then our Lead Counsel swiftly asks for a recess...you get the picture ?

Yep but Man City lawyers cant be that naive! can they?
 
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