UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[its a Barm]

This could go on throughout the 2020’s. It took 10 years for a player contract dispute to be settled and UEFA lost, which whilst being irrelevant to our case, makes you smile.

But do we want this hanging over us for 10 years, the press and sky bringing it up week after week, during every game every press conference.

 

[Fame Monster]

Conn has completely lost his head on this, and needs to be advised to take a couple of weeks off to cool down - he's just waffling incoherently now, apparently in some desperate need to seize the narrative on this story, but with less and less to add of genuine value or insight with every additional article he posts.

He's allowed his emotions to stray into his reporting, and someone needs to take his laptop off him before he has a public meltdown over City's compliance (or otherwise) with FFP.

Its painful to watch a grown man behaving like this!

I'm not sure how much of this is Conn following the editorial line of a paper that wants to politicise football by writing bile about City and making false claims about our ownership, and Conn simply knows what side his bread's buttered on. So he writes more invective against City, gets a firm pat on his head by his editor at the end of the day, then goes home and has a warm hot chocolate.

Either way, he's coming across more and more desperate to the point where he's gone beyond half-truths and politicisation to now telling outright lies. I watched Joker yesterday and have to say, the similarities between him and Conn are chilling. He really is struggling to tell the difference between what's real and not, is becoming increasingly desperate and delusional, and I worry it's a matter of time before he has a full-on meltdown on a podcast or talkshow.

He needs some time away imo.

 

[blueparrot]

I'm not sure how much of this is Conn following the editorial line of a paper that wants to politicise football by writing bile about City and making false claims about our ownership, and Conn simply knows what side his bread's buttered on. So he writes more invective against City, gets a firm pat on his head by his editor at the end of the day, then goes home and has a warm hot chocolate.

Either way, he's coming across more and more desperate to the point where he's gone beyond half-truths and politicisation to now telling outright lies. I watched Joker yesterday and have to say, the similarities between him and Conn are chilling. He really is struggling to tell the difference between what's real and not, is becoming increasingly desperate and delusional, and I worry it's a matter of time before he has a full-on meltdown on a podcast or talkshow.

He needs some time away imo.

Just think the blokes an idiot.

 

[SebastianBlue]

But do we want this hanging over us for 10 years, the press and sky bringing it up week after week, during every game every press conference.

What’s the alternative?

Taking a reduced punishment, effectively admitting guilt, continuing to have FFP hinder our development and operations (which will be compounded by a ban of anything length or fine of any amount from this instance), and then looking out for the next UEFA/cartel attack via FFP?

 

[BringBackSwales]

Just think the blokes an idiot.

That’s a funny way of spelling cunnt

 

[SouthStandStander]

Sounds like fake (or joke)

Just looked into it. It is fake. Fucking twitter got me again.

 

[Rhineland]

Kicker (German Footy Mag) with their "Question of the week"-voting:

Will City actually be banned from the CL?

Current voting: Nein/No - 61,83% Ja/Yes 38, 17%

Voting is still possible

https://www.kicker.de/6f3fe779-0a4c-4f7f-aedf-f127fa27ecb2/voting

 

[argyle]

Now that is what we need, more people with the courage to tell the truth.

It's a fake quote?

 

[bluenova]

I'm not sure how much of this is Conn following the editorial line of a paper that wants to politicise football by writing bile about City and making false claims about our ownership, and Conn simply knows what side his bread's buttered on. So he writes more invective against City, gets a firm pat on his head by his editor at the end of the day, then goes home and has a warm hot chocolate.

Either way, he's coming across more and more desperate to the point where he's gone beyond half-truths and politicisation to now telling outright lies. I watched Joker yesterday and have to say, the similarities between him and Conn are chilling. He really is struggling to tell the difference between what's real and not, is becoming increasingly desperate and delusional, and I worry it's a matter of time before he has a full-on meltdown on a podcast or talkshow.

He needs some time away imo.

I think it's more of a hair shirt he chooses to wear because he was a City fan.

His niche has always been fighting against corruption/bad owners. When his own club became a target that he had to write about, it looks like he went full in to avoid being seen as biased, when the reality is that most of the issues with our owners, throughout the past ten years or so years, aren't clear cut (they're certainly not angels, but there are definitely legitimate grievances).

 

[SouthStandStander]

Mohammed the scouse **** has started a petition. Got a huge 30 signatures

 

[paulchapo]

Or make up tweets. It's a Clarkie.

Thought it might be too good to be true.

 

[worsleyweb]

Mohammed the scouse **** has started a petition. Got a huge 30 signatures

Scouse prick.

 

[nmc]

But do we want this hanging over us for 10 years, the press and sky bringing it up week after week, during every game every press conference.

we are tainted and they'll insinuate it anyway - so we might as well fight it and clear the deck of all the rats

 

[paulchapo]

Mohammed the scouse **** has started a petition. Got a huge 30 signatures

Maybe we can start one to take five European titles they have won off them due to getting English clubs banned for five years. I might be wrong but we might have qualified for Europe one of those years under Peter Reid?

 

[TheCentralScrutinizer]

Scouse prick.

probably never set foot in this country.....

Mohammed the scouse **** has started a petition. Got a huge 30 signatures

dippers calling him an embarrassment(believe it or not)so trying to make out it was 'bait'.....pricks probably never set foot in this country let alone the City of self pity.....

 

[SebastianBlue]

Kicker (German Footy Mag) with their "Question of the week"-voting:

Will City actually be banned from the CL?

Current voting: Nein/No - 61,83% Ja/Yes 38, 17%

Voting is still possible

https://www.kicker.de/6f3fe779-0a4c-4f7f-aedf-f127fa27ecb2/voting

I give it nein years before we even know.

 

[nmc]

What’s the alternative?

Taking a reduced punishment, effectively admitting guilt, continuing to have FFP hinder our development and operations (which will be compounded by a ban of anything length or fine of any amount from this instance), and then looking out for the next UEFA/cartel attack via FFP?

Totally agree. I wouldn't mind betting the G14 are putting the finishing touches on a plan to outlaw the CFG model.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I have always felt FFP was a clear breech of a free market.

Stopping owners investments in their own Clubs is wrong on every level.

It a creates an artificial Market where those who became financially established before FFP have a clear advantage over others. Anti - competitive.

This then has a knock on effect by stiffing the transfer market.Only those Clubs pre - FFP can afford the best players.Those late to the party only get the crumbs from the Table.

Summed up in a nutshell.
The biggest clubs fear true competition.
If City can't break through with our resources, who can?

 

[nmc]

Kicker (German Footy Mag) with their "Question of the week"-voting:

Will City actually be banned from the CL?

Current voting: Nein/No - 61,83% Ja/Yes 38, 17%

Voting is still possible

https://www.kicker.de/6f3fe779-0a4c-4f7f-aedf-f127fa27ecb2/voting

The dippers will be signing up shortly to all vote yes - they like a poll.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

€30M is more than any profit we have made.
A 2 yr ban is worth well over €1/4B in CL revenues.
Commercial revenues would decrease dramatically.

UEFA are trying to financially cripple the club for a decade or more by removing the financial underpinnings of the club that literally allow it to compete. In short, it is BUSINESS FRATRICIDE, and they know it.

it cannot be allowed to stand, EVEN IF WE ARE TECHNICALLY GUILTY OF OVERSTATING A COMMERCIAL PARTNERSHIP. There is no serious person on earth who could possibly believe that the punishment is, in any way, commensurate with the “crime,” even as charged by UEFA. Indeed, the only reason ANYONE would even do such a thing would be to attempt to break into a cartel that has been created to protect themselves from outside companies trying to take a share of the billions in TV and commercial revenues, the bulk of which they have historically kept within a small group of companies to help them grow and stay profitable at the expense of others.

And, against the backdrop of the PSG case, whereby a reported €100M commercial deal was “objectively valued” at €5M, yet UEFA accepted the €100M valuation, it appears corruption WITHIN UEFA is rife, but only available to members of the Executive Board.

Lawyers and a neutral judge (if such a thing exists in the world of multi-billion Euro business, where everyone has a favorite team!) should have a field day with both the genesis and the application of FFP to date.

I’ll worry about City’s future after the last appeal has been exhausted and Sheikh Mansour has walked away.

Until then, I quote Mark Twain, as provided in the Quotations thread:

I’ve had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.