UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[ChicagoBlue]

Summed up in a nutshell.
The biggest clubs fear true competition.
If City can't break through with our resources, who can?

PSG?!

 

[jimharri]

In a country awash with Scousers and rags......

I like option 3, don't you?

 

[SebastianBlue]

PSG?!

Once they managed to get a seat at the table, absolutely.

Don’t think we are ever going to be offered a seat unless City’s and/or UEFA’s leadership/structure changes drastically.

 

[cityzen81]

Thinking that we need to get the appeal in to CAS before tomorrow's game. Gives us the opportunity to say in the post-match presser that due to ongoing investigations we will not be commenting on anything related to the case and just ignore the 99.9% of questions that they will still ask anyway.

I am sure the UEFA Vice President was quoted yesterday confirming we had already appealed?

 

[bitterfuse]

I'm not sure how much of this is Conn following the editorial line of a paper that wants to politicise football by writing bile about City and making false claims about our ownership, and Conn simply knows what side his bread's buttered on. So he writes more invective against City, gets a firm pat on his head by his editor at the end of the day, then goes home and has a warm hot chocolate.

Either way, he's coming across more and more desperate to the point where he's gone beyond half-truths and politicisation to now telling outright lies. I watched Joker yesterday and have to say, the similarities between him and Conn are chilling. He really is struggling to tell the difference between what's real and not, is becoming increasingly desperate and delusional, and I worry it's a matter of time before he has a full-on meltdown on a podcast or talkshow.

He needs some time away imo.

Conn's analogy yesterday where he tried to explain City's "crime" by comparing it to a third party dishonestly claiming to be driving a speeding car and taking the points on behalf of the person actually behind the wheel was indeed an interesting one. What he failed to dislose however is that the speeding laws are devised to protect everyone, not just an elite cartel aka the uefa G14. Nice attempt Mr Conn but fundamentally flawed all the same.

 

[TedofChume]

Could someone start a thread on the positive things that could happen if City are banned next season? ( Although I read the forum a lot, I hardly ever post so can't start one myself. )

After all, every set back can be seen as an opportunity.

The downside to all this is a bit like a transfer ban because we won't be able to attract and sign the best young talent. However, isn't that the long term purpose of the Etihad Campus? Sadly some players may also leave for UCL football.

Obviously you'd hope the likes of Foden, Garcia, Doyle etc could break into the team. Once a top 4 finish is secured, should these players play every week?

What about players like Patrick Roberts, he's 23 and never had a chance, if he's not good enough why is he still a City player, or is he at the right age now or next season to make an impact? Celtic fans thought he was amazing when he played for them.

Also, we have first dibs on Jayden Sancho should BD decide to sell him. Do we want him back and would he come?

Are there any other promising players we have who could be blooded during the ban?

One thing is being banned from the UCL might expedite the Etihad Campus in delivering first team talent that is "good to go".

 

[ChicagoBlue]

In a country awash with Scousers and rags......

I like option 3, don't you?

It literally screams: PLEASE CLICK HERE!

 

[sir baconface]

Is that even a real word? ;-)

It is now, mate :)

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Like everyone, with the seriousness of this situation I catch myself occasionally questioning if we will win this. Remember we are surrounded at every turn by a belligerent and compliant media with very few reasonable voices even thinking about offering the other side of the argument (special mention to Adrian Durham and Martin Samuel) so the negativity is everywhere.

Then I ask myself, since the takeover have our owners ever let the club down. In any way of any substance? No they haven't.

What they have said they would do, they have done.
- Tear down the banner? DONE
- Win the league? DONE
- Sign the best players in the world? DONE
- Make the club self sustainable after the initial investment? DONE.
- Expand the stadium? DONE.
- Invest in the youth system? DONE
- Hire the best people behind the scenes? DONE.
- Lots more stuff. DONE.

My point is that at every turn since 2008 the media have claimed, with absolute irrefutable certainty that what City were claiming to be doing wasn't possible and wouldn't end well. They've been wrong every time.

When men the like of Khaldoon (and by extension Sheik Mansoor) tell me "we've got this, we will win this fight" I have total faith. Not blind faith, but faith based on the evidence of my own eyes and ears. To be so bullish and confident for these people tells me they KNOW they are going to win this thing. If for no better reason than to be so confident and then lose would mean a great loss of face publicly and they would not risk that (in my opinion) if they believed there was a slight chance of not winning through.

It will be long, hard, and unfair at many points. Our detractors all over the world will be queuing up to tell us we are going to lose and lose heavily, but keep the faith. The people running out club these days have never let us down and they're not going to start now. Not with this.

 

[Tueartsoverhead kick]

Correct my head is scrambled with all this.

You are David Conn and I claim my £5 :)

 

[marco]

TBH this is becoming a very very big cam of worms that UEFA i feel would not want opening

 

[cityzen81]

Like everyone, with the seriousness of this situation I catch myself occasionally questioning if we will win this. Remember we are surrounded at every turn by a belligerent and compliant media with very few reasonable voices even thinking about offering the other side of the argument (special mention to Adrian Durham and Martin Samuel) so the negativity is everywhere.

Then I ask myself, since the takeover have our owners ever let the club down. In any way of any substance? No they haven't.

What they have said they would do, they have done.
- Tear down the banner? DONE
- Win the league? DONE
- Sign the best players in the world? DONE
- Make the club self sustainable after the initial investment? DONE.
- Expand the stadium? DONE.
- Invest in the youth system? DONE
- Hire the best people behind the scenes? DONE.
- Lots more stuff. DONE.

My point is that at every turn since 2008 the media have claimed, with absolute irrefutable certainty that what City were claiming to be doing wasn't possible and wouldn't end well. They've been wrong every time.

When men the like of Khaldoon (and by extension Sheik Mansoor) tell me "we've got this, we will win this fight" I have total faith. Not blind faith, but faith based on the evidence of my own eyes and ears. To be so bullish and confident for these people tells me they KNOW they are going to win this thing. If for no better reason than to be so confident and then lose would mean a great loss of face publicly and they would not risk that (in my opinion) if they believed there was a slight chance of not winning through.

It will be long, hard, and unfair at many points. Our detractors all over the world will be queuing up to tell us we are going to lose and lose heavily, but keep the faith. The people running out club these days have never let us down and they're not going to start now. Not with this.

Great post

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Once they managed to get a seat at the table, absolutely.

Don’t think we are ever going to be offered a seat unless City’s and/or UEFA’s leadership/structure changes drastically.

If it was ever offered I’d like to think we’d turn it down.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

But do we want this hanging over us for 10 years, the press and sky bringing it up week after week, during every game every press conference.

I think the plotters would love to have this bogged down for years to come.

And I don't mean Uefa. They will have a financial concern surrounding protracted litigation.

No, I'm talking about those clubs which have been lobbying them to go after us.

Uefa will probably cease to exist in less than ten years, another cartel controlled shop will be in charge by then.

In the medium interim, the objective is served to keep us on the outside for as long as Uefa believe they are still useful to the likes of Bayern, Juventus and the two Spanish clubs.

We cannot stop at CAS, even if we win. You go for the whole rotting cabal.

There will be some positive pro-pieces coming out for City soon enough, I'm sure.

 

[Norbert D]

I wouldn’t get worked up over David Cunnt, he’s a no mark, the Gonadian are up their own arse but don’t make money and come across all pious but then offshore income, tax dodging cunnts. They also hate the working class, that was finely honed under that complete fucking wanker Rusbridger.
Once all the dust settles City should fuck their enemies because that what they are.

last nights Chelsea v Trafford game showed just how bent football is, that red twat from wythenshawe refereeing his boyhood idols, what a complete farce.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Like everyone, with the seriousness of this situation I catch myself occasionally questioning if we will win this. Remember we are surrounded at every turn by a belligerent and compliant media with very few reasonable voices even thinking about offering the other side of the argument (special mention to Adrian Durham and Martin Samuel) so the negativity is everywhere.

Then I ask myself, since the takeover have our owners ever let the club down. In any way of any substance? No they haven't.

What they have said they would do, they have done.
- Tear down the banner? DONE
- Win the league? DONE
- Sign the best players in the world? DONE
- Make the club self sustainable after the initial investment? DONE.
- Expand the stadium? DONE.
- Invest in the youth system? DONE
- Hire the best people behind the scenes? DONE.
- Lots more stuff. DONE.

My point is that at every turn since 2008 the media have claimed, with absolute irrefutable certainty that what City were claiming to be doing wasn't possible and wouldn't end well. They've been wrong every time.

When men the like of Khaldoon (and by extension Sheik Mansoor) tell me "we've got this, we will win this fight" I have total faith. Not blind faith, but faith based on the evidence of my own eyes and ears. To be so bullish and confident for these people tells me they KNOW they are going to win this thing. If for no better reason than to be so confident and then lose would mean a great loss of face publicly and they would not risk that (in my opinion) if they believed there was a slight chance of not winning through.

It will be long, hard, and unfair at many points. Our detractors all over the world will be queuing up to tell us we are going to lose and lose heavily, but keep the faith. The people running out club these days have never let us down and they're not going to start now. Not with this.

Read that with Land of Hope and Glory playing in my head.

 

[Roachy]

I am sure the UEFA Vice President was quoted yesterday confirming we had already appealed?

I put this up last night but here it is again:

UEFA vice-president, Michele Uva: "[Manchester] City have appealed to the CAS for a suspension [of the sanction]. The times [it will take] are natural ones, however, we are talking about months and not years."

 

[SebastianBlue]

If it was ever offered I’d like to think we’d turn it down.

I think it would depend on the terms and the state of UEFA at the time of offering, to be honest.

 

[abu13]

Lets say for a moment that we lose the appeal at CAS, what is Uefa's fall back position with regard to us taking the case to the courts.

Could they announce that they are going to re-vamp the whole FFP process and would this then negate any legal action going ahead?

 

[Mark - TheBlue]

I think the plotters would love to have this bogged down for years to come.

And I don't mean Uefa. They will have a financial concern surrounding protracted litigation.

No, I'm talking about those clubs which have been lobbying them to go after us.

Uefa will probably cease to exist in less than ten years, another cartel controlled shop will be in charge by then.

In the medium interim, the objective is served to keep us on the outside for as long as Uefa believe they are still useful to the likes of Bayern, Juventus and the two Spanish clubs.

We cannot stop at CAS, even if we win. You go for the whole rotting cabal.

There will be some positive pro-pieces coming out for City soon enough, I'm sure.

Are there any journalists left to write them though.