Now, to suggest a link would be akin to putting two and two together and coming up with a couple of thousand, but the timing is interesting. It's certainly a serendipitous coincidence that this comes shortly after Martin Ziegler suggested that City think Qatar was behind the hack on City's emails which kicked of the Der Speigel stuff and led to where we are now, while Sam Lee said on the 9320 podcast the other day that City believe that not only Real Madrid but also PSG lobbied hard for us to be punished by UEFA in the current matter.
I wonder if our 200 page document has now been opened and UEFA are shitting it?As I understand it the chamber only listens to evidence given by the UEFA prosecutor and is only allowed to judge the case solely on what he provides. By all accounts we provided a 200 page document in our defence, to this day it remains unopened. It's beyond me why the process doesn't have a representative for the prosecution and the defence but my understanding is it doesn't, it doesn't take a huge leap of faith (given the setup) that we were found guilty.
I thing CAS will only look at the procedural aspect of the case, they will not look at all as to whether the verdict was correct. I'm not sure if CAS use the same group of people as UEFA but even if they do we get to pick one and CAS get to pick one, this gives us a fighting chance of the case being looked at by a more sympathetic group.
Is it coincidence that its come out now, from UEFA trying to show that 1 of the nuevo rich clubs is bent so the other must be or is this UAE striking a bow against Qatar just when we need it as a warning that it's not just about UEFA & football.While awkward for UEFA as he's on their exec - I think as the rep for the European Club Association - is this anything to do with actions for UEFA or PSG?
It probably is still all or nothing but there's no need to show our hand at this stage Gary.That worries me a little because I’m of the opinion that could be an indication of a possible agreement somewhere down the line with UEFA. Personally, I’d rather we fight this to the end and if after a proper, legal, transparent process has been followed City are guilty then ‘fair dos’, let’s accept our punishment whatever that may be. If however City are proved innocent then UEFA will be shown to be corrupt and may well collapse, ending their cosy relationships. If we do a deal we become part of football governance’s problem, part of an elite who don’t give a stuff about ambition etc. PSG, CFC and others have taken a path of cosying up - we should fight this to the end, whatever the cost to UEFA. Our reputation is in the gutter already, so if we do a deal at any point the abuse heading our way will increase significantly because we will be perceived as ‘buying a place at the top table’ as well as buying success and, presumably accused of bribing UEFA to avoid a fight. All or nothing for me if we want football to be fair, transparent and open to all.
Read somewhere on twitter that was the start of the bitter fall outReal Madrid have some brass neck trying to stick the boot into City. Did they not get the begging bowl out to Shiekh Mansour to assist with the financing of the redevelopment of the Bernabau? Hopefully they will get the equivalent of the Gene Kelly stand built instead.
CAS list totally diff to UEFA.As I understand it the chamber only listens to evidence given by the UEFA prosecutor and is only allowed to judge the case solely on what he provides. By all accounts we provided a 200 page document in our defence, to this day it remains unopened. It's beyond me why the process doesn't have a representative for the prosecution and the defence but my understanding is it doesn't, it doesn't take a huge leap of faith (given the setup) that we were found guilty.
I thing CAS will only look at the procedural aspect of the case, they will not look at all as to whether the verdict was correct. I'm not sure if CAS use the same group of people as UEFA but even if they do we get to pick one and CAS get to pick one, this gives us a fighting chance of the case being looked at by a more sympathetic group.
Then we should pass a fatter envelope to a few others even higher up. Or to a few shady but sharp as tacks lawyers to stitch up anyone who's against us. Make some shit stick, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the fat corrupt twats in uefa have accepted underage prostitutes, drugs and involvement with known gangsters. I bet it wouldn't be too difficult to pay the right people to uncover some 'evidence'. The fat cünts would probably drop quite a few charges against us quite quickly to stop that becoming public.
I would be amazed if UEFA havent looked at it after it was passed upwards,they didnt look at it before as they would of missed their so called 5 year statue of limitations.They knew we would appeal so surely would have their lawyers look at it to see how they could succeed.CAS list totally diff to UEFA.
If we appeal on the substance, CAS has the power to set the "verdict" aside..
How do you know the document in our defence remains unopened?
Breaking: PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi charged with criminal offences in Switzerland, for giving ‘undue advantages’ to ex FIFA gen-sec Jerome Valcke, who is charged with ‘aggravated criminal mismanagement’ and accepting bribes.
The heat is on!
Oh, this is music to my ears. Khelaifi, of course, is on EUFA committee, and got Psg off UEFA ffp charge in the most astonishing way. Uefa credibilty takes a massive dive.Have you blocked David conn ?
The first domino?
The issue is not just substance but impartiality. City said that we had a body of irrefutable evidence. it was ignored, or dismissed.Exactly. There's no way that the tone of what he said should just be dismissed as your standard perp claiming innocence.
He could have simply said "We have evidence that we believe contradicts the AC's findings and, as such, think we have a very strong case." But he didn't; he went several steps beyond that and is going to look very silly indeed if it turns out this was all just a show of bravado with no substance to back it up.
As I understand it the chamber only listens to evidence given by the UEFA prosecutor and is only allowed to judge the case solely on what he provides. By all accounts we provided a 200 page document in our defence, to this day it remains unopened. It's beyond me why the process doesn't have a representative for the prosecution and the defence but my understanding is it doesn't, it doesn't take a huge leap of faith (given the setup) that we were found guilty.
I thing CAS will only look at the procedural aspect of the case, they will not look at all as to whether the verdict was correct. I'm not sure if CAS use the same group of people as UEFA but even if they do we get to pick one and CAS get to pick one, this gives us a fighting chance of the case being looked at by a more sympathetic group.
Oh, this is music to my ears. Khelaifi, of course, is on EUFA committee, and got Psg off UEFA ffp charge in the most astonishing way. Uefa credibilty takes a massive dive.
So what you’re saying is, it can’t be completely dismissed?The only interesting aspect were things he didn't need to say such as the clear distinction drawn between UEFA as a whole and elements in UEFA who are hostile to City.
The AC had City's body of 'irrefutable evidence' and dismissed it. Why should we believe CAS will view it differently?
Rich Arabs bending the beautiful game getting caught bang to rights is how most will see it. We'll be next on their list. I am talking about perceptions here not reality.Oh, this is music to my ears. Khelaifi, of course, is on EUFA committee, and got Psg off UEFA ffp charge in the most astonishing way. Uefa credibilty takes a massive dive.
This is not correct. The Adjudicatory Chamber takes account of all representations. You may find this interesting. https://ninetythreetwenty.com/blog/...e-ffps-part-deux-the-double-city-do-not-want/