UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
I agree about the verbosity etc, very hard work, but still think some specifics in there which, if prove to be true, will be dynamite.

I'm sure I read on here that some info that came out recently was first mentioned on footballisfixed and I've just noticed PB is linking from his twitter to some posts on there.

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At the moment we can only speculate about what is going on, or what is about to happen. We have the rather vague information from Wattle, saying a journalist friend tipped him off about a looming story that was unfavourable towards Liverpool. The only additional clue from that was the direct quote "multiple hacking". Whether that means Liverpool hacking us after the earlier settlement, or multiple clubs involved in hacking us, is unclear.

PB then said the media have a story that is seriously damaging to our rivals, but we won't see it yet because lawyers are heavily involved.

Now we have this tweet from PB, which seems to suggest (to me at least) that Pinto is not a lone wolf, but is working on behalf of others.

Is it to far fetched to surmise that City have evidence that Pinto was acting on behalf of, and may have been paid by certain cartel clubs, and those clubs are now seeking injunctions to stop this going to press?
 
A violent reaction is not really the answer

He's a little bloke with a big mouth

I'm a big bloke with a short temper especially when it comes to city

At this moment can't see us going and fucking it up for everyone else
 
Paladin said:
At the moment we can only speculate about what is going on, or what is about to happen. We have the rather vague information from Wattle, saying a journalist friend tipped him off about a looming story that was unfavourable towards Liverpool. The only additional clue from that was the direct quote "multiple hacking". Whether that means Liverpool hacking us after the earlier settlement, or multiple clubs involved in hacking us, is unclear.

PB then said the media have a story that is seriously damaging to our rivals, but we won't see it yet because lawyers are heavily involved.

Now we have this tweet from PB, which seems to suggest (to me at least) that Pinto is not a lone wolf, but is working on behalf of others.

Is it to far fetched to surmise that City have evidence that Pinto was acting on behalf of, and may have been paid by certain cartel clubs, and those clubs are now seeking injunctions to stop this going to press?
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If that summary is really the case are we to assume the press would actually fight an injunction given how much they have invested in these particular clubs, and would they put any effort in to reporting the facts? We’ve already seen the effort they put into the Liverpool hacking story once it came out
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
Fair comment, but at this time with the current owners we have in place I feel they have been nothing but open, honest and kept their word to us every step of the way about where our club is/are heading, and if they tell me as they are to trust them, then I feel as a fan I definitely owe them that...
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I agree with backing our owners completely. They have delivered on our wildest dreams as football fans. No one can take away the pleasure we have experienced from our success since they took over. Our rivals want to take away our future success and we must fight for justice together.
 
moz said:
Just had the shittest night ever talking to a rag who wouldn't listen to any reasonable argument about city or ffp after telling the tit i wasn't up for discussing anything but football

Going on holiday with the wanker in September for 2 weeks (In a group) but now got to tell the missus were not going due to the fact I want to kill the fucker and dont fancy staying in a villa with the rag that

Anybody got any advice

Also had a bet we wouldn't get a ban (I've had a few)
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Buy a bag of coke and then slip it in his suitcase and then have a quiet word with a customs officer.
Problem solved, happy holidays.
 
moz said:
Just had the shittest night ever talking to a rag who wouldn't listen to any reasonable argument about city or ffp after telling the tit i wasn't up for discussing anything but football

Going on holiday with the wanker in September for 2 weeks (In a group) but now got to tell the missus were not going due to the fact I want to kill the fucker and dont fancy staying in a villa with the rag that

Anybody got any advice

Also had a bet we wouldn't get a ban (I've had a few)
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Kill him before September; you can still take the wife on holiday, you won't have to listen to his shit and there will be more room in the villa.
 
moz said:
A violent reaction is not really the answer

He's a little bloke with a big mouth

I'm a big bloke with a short temper especially when it comes to city

At this moment can't see us going and fucking it up for everyone else
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Ha, classic. Just deck the cu t
 
Dear all,

Haven't posted on here for a while. Hope you're all well.

I think there's so many angles to this story. Most of us share the view that FFP was designed to stop city.

No doubt that the cartel are using this as a protection racket.

However, what I am interested in, and it's probably been stated already, is some of the language that's used in the press and wider public domain.

'arab money 'petro dollars' etc etc

Now, the Guardian who purport to be a left wing, liberal newspaper are big on this idea of 'sportswashing' and human rights in the middle east.

I find this very confusing. If the Daily Mail or a more right wing paper were to use such language wouldn't the Guardian amongst others view this through a racist and imperialist lens?

Wouldn't they point to neocolonialist attitudes and bigotry?

In my view, how other countries run their affairs is up to them. Yet i find the contradiction of the Guardian and others staggering.

They believe in the mantra of liberalism, equality and diversity yet only when it applies to a western country.

By casting judgement on other countries surely they are the ones who are now the oppressors?

It seems to be the Guardian are using Manchester City and its owners as a vehicle to impose their political ideology. It's clear that they cannot tolerate a country with a different political, religious and moral outlook.
 
Cobwebcat said:
If you try to justify City then you’ve lost the argument as you won’t change his mind. Here is what you do...enjoy it just laugh and say we are going down with a billion in the bank. He wants to upset you, if he doesn’t succeed he has nowhere to go and will stop. You will feel better after some sleep. Go on holiday and enjoy it.
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Bollocks to this appeasement shit, go with your instinct and kill the fucker!
 
deano ou812 said:
Why let the cnut spoil you and your mrs holiday go on it and just take the cnut to one side and give him a fucking warning,if that doesn’t have any effect wait till he is tanked up and you still sober then drown the fucker in the pool ( if there is one ) ..
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You are Michael Barrymore and I claim my £5
 
I'm Blue said:
Buy a bag of coke and then slip it in his suitcase and then have a quiet word with a customs officer.
Problem solved, happy holidays.
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....or don't tell the customs officer, then it's win win either way..

Best way to shut up most of these gobshites is to ask them what city have actually been accused of in any sort of detail. Most of them don't have a clue.
 
Groke said:
....or don't tell the customs officer, then it's win win either way..

Best way to shut up most of these gobshites is to ask them what city have actually been accused of in any sort of detail. Most of them don't have a clue.
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I did that with Delooney. He was claiming this was a completed different FFP breach to the one in 2014 when it's clearly not. So I gave him chapter & verse on why he was wrong, which isn't easy on Twitter so it was one of my mega-threads. He kept saying I was wrong so naturally I challenged him to put me right. It was like the Monty Python Argument sketch. It wasn't to humiliate him - he doesn't need me for that - but a genuine attempt to engage with a journalist and educate them. I more or less told him to put up or shut up.

What I got back was a stream of what I called "Irish blarney & bluster" (for which he called me a racist) that basically said "I know the truth but I'm not telling you as my myriad sources are confidential". At which point I'd had enough and told him everything I'd shown him was in the public domain and that he was a bullshitter. I then finally blocked him.
 
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