UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Maybe he didn't take the brief weeks ago and the reporting of him doing so was innacurate?

It wouldn't be the first time would it?
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As you say, if he didn't take the brief, he didn't take it when reported. He would not have dropped out at the last minute. It was a legal press story - it could easily have been Chinese whispers or conditional on something falling away (like another case) especially as he worked for the club previously
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Maybe he didn't take the brief weeks ago and the reporting of him doing so was innacurate?

It wouldn't be the first time would it?
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That would make it worse, why would City still be letting it be reported he had? Surely it would undermine whoever had taken the brief, why would City hold that information to themselves?

Anyhow, hopefully it is just a rumour as the OP states.
 
beverly hills said:
Really, the bloggers submit regularly to tabloids that they pick up from the likes of here.
I’ve said my bit & im done.
This thread is far to important to be derailed !
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They might sniff around on here looking for stuff they can use, but they know exactly what they’re looking for. The editorial position of just about every newspaper these days is to maximise clicks whenever possible, and on the sports pages that means (broadly speaking) puff pieces on the dippers and the rags, and given that we are a ready packaged enemy of both of those clubs and their huge global fanbases, hatchet jobs on Manchester City. That policy comes pre-determined and not as a result of what they may or may not read on Blue Moon
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
That would make it worse, why would City still be letting it be reported he had? Surely it would undermine whoever had taken the brief, why would City hold that information to themselves?

Anyhow, hopefully it is just a rumour as the OP states.
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May well just take a view that commenting on our legal team is pretty dull and irrelevant.
 
Ric said:
We could appeal against the CAS ruling to the Swiss Federal Tribunal, but only on very specific grounds. Guess the only other option would be to try and challenge the very legality of FFP in the European Court of Justice?
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If we do lose and the ban us upheld, i can't see how the PL can't not then be obliged to look again at any informatiom we submitted for their own version of financial play. It may be that we ars absolutely fine even with the worst case interpretation of the accounts, as the thresholds ste different, and it is all over. But if the outcome even insinuates that we deliberately mislead anyone then there will be some serious accusations to deal with, domestically, never mind in switzerland. And i struggle to imagine one will wait for the outcone if the other, we'll be stretched fighting all it in all sides.
 
projectriver said:
As you say, if he didn't take the brief, he didn't take it when reported. He would not have dropped out at the last minute. It was a legal press story - it could easily have been Chinese whispers or conditional on something falling away (like another case) especially as he worked for the club previously
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Yep, his chambers are pretty much on retainer with the UAE.

If you circulate a narrative long enough, it soon becomes gospel.

As City have found to their cost this past decade...

If he was on and now he's off, it's because something more pressing now takes precedent.

The CAS hearing date was always up in the air and was only announced recently.
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
That would make it worse, why would City still be letting it be reported he had? Surely it would undermine whoever had taken the brief, why would City hold that information to themselves?

Anyhow, hopefully it is just a rumour as the OP states.
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Well it would have been weeks of "Pannick snubs City", "City's CAS Crisis" etc. rather than nice and quiet as it has been.

Stefan just had to go and write Monday's headlines for whatever reason.
 
General point. Neither side really wants to go to CAS (whatever City say). If City's advice was anything but confident and strong, they would have found a way to settle this matter (today if need be). That is not to say the advice is "you will win" but it must be advice that they should have the best of the arguments. I'm pretty sure UEFA would happily take a one year ban - if we really thought we were likely to lose, I think we would take it.
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
That would make it worse, why would City still be letting it be reported he had? Surely it would undermine whoever had taken the brief, why would City hold that information to themselves?

Anyhow, hopefully it is just a rumour as the OP states.
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The counter argument to that is why would City maybe wish to telegraph their counsel, who does it serve anyhow, outside of some gossip in the trade press and on here?
 
projectriver said:
General point 2: City will now have the seen the written submissions of UEFA and vice versa. Both sides now have a good idea of merits on all points and can evaluate how CAS may read them
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In that case, would someone like Pannick still be willing to go into bat (if the submissions of Uefa are not a good look for us) or more likely, there would be advisement from our counsel to settle before tomorrow.

Does bluffing and bartering really go on right until the moment a judge sits?

Obviously, on the flip side, Uefa will now have a fair idea where they stand (they are more constrained by the lobbying from other clubs)
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
In that case, would someone like Pannick still be willing to go into bat (if the submissions of Uefa are not a good look for us) or more likely, there would be advisement from our counsel to settle before tomorrow.

Does bluffing and bartering really go on right until the moment a judge sits?
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Its public knowledge (for those that can join the dots) that I settled a £640m claim on a Saturday night before the commencement of a trial at the High Court on the Monday morning. Cases settle during trials. Cases settle after trials but before judgements. Cases settle even after judgements but before appeals.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
In that case, would someone like Pannick still be willing to go into bat (if the submissions of Uefa are not a good look for us) or more likely, there would be advisement from our counsel to settle before tomorrow.

Does bluffing and bartering really go on right until the moment a judge sits?

Obviously, on the flip side, Uefa will now have a fair idea where they stand (they are more constrained by the lobbying from other clubs)
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TH, having worked for a solicitor previously you would not believe the amount of times things get settled on the court steps
 
projectriver said:
I'm pretty sure UEFA would happily take a one year ban - if we really thought we were likely to lose, I think we would take it.
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“ We will take a pinch now “ was what Khaldoon said but as we know the anti Abu Dhabi hate campaign has continued and gained pace.
We also know saving face is at the top of our priorities .
The steely look in his eyes at that time and since says it all for me.
We were hung out to dry by EUFA when they moved the goal posts back then to appease G14.
As KAM said back in the day “ all we want to do is dine with others at the top table but the door remains shut”.

Institutional racism and pure aristocratic greed is at the root of all of this.

Every dog has its day and this is ours , so watch out some of you “Bent Bastards”
 
dickie davies said:
Think of Pannick as your best centre forward and you are approaching one of the biggest games of the season, playing your local rivals away
The forward goes and cracks a couple of ribs in a taxi accident three days before the game

What hope have you got of winning!!
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We beat Chelsea away in the 2017/18 season days after Aguero was involved in that crash in Amsterdam. Fingers crossed for a similar result.
 
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