UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[bluemanchester]

Of course they will mention them, that's the reason we didn't 'co-operate' due to sensitive material being leaked into the public domain, that's a massive part of our case I suspect

Just the other 2? charges to sort out and finished by tea time.;)

 

[portisheadblue]

Along the lines of Citys massive spending in Manchester you would think the council would be singing from the rooftops about how good Citys owners have been for Manchester. Or have I missed something.

Isn’t the Mayor of Manchester a scouser?

Maybe that’s relevant.

 

[hateutd]

Predictions are respected, beliefs also and we all hope for the best, but what about news?....

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Hes just been on Talkshite talking about it as though hes the font of all knowledge. load of shite I text them and told them that if they wish to report accurately on the subject then they need to talk to a proper expert, ie PrestwichBlue

I'm flattered but Talkshite aren't interested in the truth or expert opinions talking sense so I won't be expecting the call.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Realistically it would have an impact, but would just put us back where we were in say 2010-11 with a much sounder business model and a higher quality group of players.

We didn't do bad from there did we?.

No but we will lose a lot of players that I dont want to see go.

 

[Grassland Blue]

By the way, whatever happens, nobody should expect any tenderness from the press, the media, and not a few fans of other clubs. If we're exonerated, it'll be “The cheating c**nts got away with it again!”. If we get the ban, it'll be “Haha, the cheating c**nts finally got what they deserve!”. Just walk past it. It should be enough for us that we love City. I don't ask anybody else to.

For myself, I expect a one-year ban not because I believe City are guilty — it would be very surprising that the club and its lawyers have been so bullish about this if they genuinely believe that the club has been involved in any wrongdoing or breach of FFP for which we haven't already been punished — but because overturning the ban completely by the CAS would undermine UEFA's authority significantly in all sorts of ways. And, the way of the world being what it is, that will, I believe, be in the back of the minds of the CAS.
It'll hurt us, but we'll survive. After all, we've been to York and back — several million of us …

I don't understand your reasoning.
If we have done nothing wrong then why should we accept any punishment?
Exonerate ourselves and sue UEFA is how we should be approaching this.
Don't forget - they have tried to fxck us over, now it's our turn!

 

[KS55]

Isn’t the Mayor of Manchester a scouser?

Maybe that’s relevant.

He is an Evertonian who was instrumental in uncovering the lies of Hillsborough. If we want verbal support from him, we should ask for it. Oh, that requires an initiative from PR Dept.

 

[mayo31]

I just fear if it is upheld it will set us back years.
I just feel like walking away from the whole game.

If you do what loyalty points have you got as I will buy your card ;)

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

What's the bet, if we start getting too much of an upper hand, then the video conferencing starts playing up or goes down altogether ;-)

I’m thinking Franny Lee and the old fire alarm routine at the AGM!

 

[mac]

He is an Evertonian who was instrumental in uncovering the lies of Hillsborough. If we want verbal support from him, we should ask for it. Oh, that requires an initiative from PR Dept.

We shouldn't have to ask. Our owners have invested heavily and the city of Manchester gets a ton of money from the club and its supporters.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

If you do what loyalty points have you got as I will buy your card ;)

Not sure I'll check mate

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

We are well and truly in the **** in the court of public opinion had talk sport on multiple ex managers and players talking of everyone leaving managers players. Then Rob Harris comes on and says we are trying to get off on a technicality of the emails being stolen and then saying how city fans seem to think they are being persecuted but look at all these other clubs who have been banned. Consensus in a lot of the media seems to be a reduction in ban. Basically ignoring what we actually said which is we are innocent

Nothing Rob Harris (the ex Manchester Grammar School Rag) says can be trusted. Just a few months ago he accused us of not showing enough respect to UEFA just weeks after Yves Leterme (who led the investigaton into us) was totally discredited over the PSG decison and Al Khelafi (UEFA Exec, boss of Bein sports, and prominent Qatari leader) was charged with corruption by the Swiss authorities.
He has no credibilty as a journalist. Perhaps he should just stick to his appearances on Qatari propaganda channels like Al Jazeera.

 

[samarasra]

Realistically it would have an impact, but would just put us back where we were in say 2010-11 with a much sounder business model and a higher quality group of players.

We didn't do bad from there did we?.

I don't believe it will even put us back that far. We are not going to lose all the current squad over 2 years. We have 5 or 6 young players good enough to play in any Premier League team outside the top 4. If big priced players are sold there are plenty of reasonably priced young players to buy who would relish the prospect of playing for City with a view to long term success. The most vital thing I believe is keeping the administration team from Khaldoon to Pep together, we will have ups and downs but we the the solid foundations to get through.

 

[ancoats]

Along the lines of Citys massive spending in Manchester you would think the council would be singing from the rooftops about how good Citys owners have been for Manchester. Or have I missed something.

man city have put manchester and east manchester back on the map and a city where people want to live again. the council have welcome the money but have to stay neutral because not everybody is into football or sport

but yes your right the council should be backing city on this and shouting it from the CIS building ? and a partnership is backing each other

 

[Trojan1962]

I just fear if it is upheld it will set us back years.
I just feel like walking away from the whole game.

If we lose it’s backs to the wall. Get to as many games as possible and cheer the lads on. We have been in worse situations we will bounce back like we always have.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Nothing Rob Harris (the ex Manchester Grammar School Rag) says can be trusted. Just a few months ago he accused us of not showing enough respect to UEFA just weeks after Yves Leterme (who led the investigaton into us) was totally discredited over the PSG decison and Al Khelafi (UEFA Exec, boss of Bein sports, and prominent Qatari leader) was charged with corruption by the Swiss authorities.
He has no credibilty as a journalist. Perhaps he should just stick to his appearances on Qatari propaganda channels like Al Jazeera.

Spurs fan actually, according to my inside informant.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Yes but it's quite possible the evidence we have provided is our audited accounts. Which in itself is evidence of innocence.

The fact we appealed to CAS half way through the hearing shows clearly we were wary of the leaks and had no faith in the process.

I would hope we have more faith in the process at CAS, and there may well be more sensitive information we refused to provide to UEFA that we may well provide to CAS.

My concern is that CAS (like UEFA) will deem that it isn’t, and they will want specific evidence (ie the full email chain) that shows that the email published by Der Spiegel about how the ADUG shareholder (ie Sheikh Mansour) should best route funds into the club via Etihad, was simply a misunderstanding of process on the sender’s part.
That for me is the crux of the whole matter, namely that we were supplying the money to Etihad to in turn fund the club. Etihad’s fully audited accounts might better serve that purpose than our own

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Any white smoke yet?

 

[Gordyola]

Isn’t the Mayor of Manchester a scouser?

Maybe that’s relevant.

Andy Burnham (Everton fan) is Mayor of Greater Manchester City are investing in the City of Manchester until recently the CEO was Howard Bernstein who is a City fan if I’m not mistaken he’s now a City Vice President

 

[meltonblue]

I’ve deliberately avoided most of the media or opinion piece on this as I just don’t think there’s enough actual fact out in the public domain to really know how this is going to go.

Personally though, I think about the whole slightly differently to others though. I don’t want us to be exonerated for the sake of it or on a technicality, I want us to be exonerated because what we have said in terms of having irrefutable proof is correct. I couldn’t care less about Uefa or what we’ve said to them, I do care about believing in what I’m told as a fan though and want to know it’s true.