UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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karen7 said:
Had anyone thought about how you will feel towards the club if we exhaust all options and are still found guilty? I don't mean towards the manager or the team but towards khaldoon,soriano and our owner
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Yes, Karen , I have. My feeling towards the club will never change.
But if it emerges that Soriano has deceived us fans or has just dropped a huge bollock, then he has to go. Other reforms in the club will be needed and I will expect them pronto.
City is the club I have supported for over 60 years. That will never change. I will forgive a naughty child.
 
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KS55 said:
Yes, Karen , I have. My feeling towards the club will never change.
But if it emerges that Soriano has deceived us fans or has just dropped a huge bollock, then he has to go. Other reforms in the club will be needed and I will expect them pronto.
City is the club I have supported for over 60 years. That will never change. I will forgive a naughty child.
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Yeah...heads will need to roll. I can forgive mistakes but lying to the fans will be unforgivable in my opinion.
My love for city will never die, though. Managers, players, chairmen, owners, stadiums even come and go but the fans will always be here. It will be more damaging than people think though..new fans and kids wont want to support a club labelled as "cheats". And well get sick of the abuse when wearing our colours.
 
karen7 said:
Had anyone thought about how you will feel towards the club if we exhaust all options and are still found guilty? I don't mean towards the manager or the team but towards khaldoon,soriano and our owner
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Hi Karen, firstly, I must point out that I don't think we have done anything wrong and are therefore not guilty of any charges levied against us..

If however we are found guilty and miscarriages of justice do happen and that's what this will be if we get found guilty in my opinion, I wouldn't feel let down by the club whatsoever..!

To enable us to complete with the established, cartel clubs we had to undertake a rapid growth which involved serious investment..

This was our only option as UEFA, who were no doubt being manipulated by the cartel clubs, were working behind the scenes to slam the door shut on us by implementing FFP..

We were initially caught out because the goalposts were moved after it was agreed that our accounts were in order (I think I'm right in saying that)..

Paying the fine that we copped for was us thinking that would be the end of the matter and that we'd be accepted.. It shouldn't be seen as an admission of guilt in my opinion..

Unfortunately though it was by everyone else who had an axe to grind with us..

We've been trying to clear our name ever since..

Sorry for droning on but l, like many on here have had to live with "your club are cheats" from all the tossers whose teams noses we have put out of joint..

The answer to your question...

I wouldn't have any issues or problems with Khaldoon, Soriano or Mansour, not one bit..

In fact I'm proud that we've got guys like these running our club and doing all they can to make us better..!
 
I think we’ll be left with the ban in place unfortunately. It pisses me off because of other clubs harping on about it for years but on the flip side I’ll be glad it’s over and we know where we stand.

Id say we quickly move to get rid of players and staff who don’t wish to remain here and build again. It will set us back 5 years but we’ll come back stronger. Neither the club nor me are going anywhere.
 
If we where to get a reduction down to a one year ban then next year would be the ideal time to serve it .. Under the current circumstances it's highly unlikely fans will be allowed into the stadia , certainly in the group stages , even after that it's doubtful without a vaccine . could be an ideal time to concentrate on getting back on top in the premier league , less games with a tighter squad with more time between games to work with the players , less injuries and all the advantages of not playing weekend - midweek - weekend schedules for 5 months of the season...Hopefully things will go our way and the ban will be completely revoked , but a ban of just one season would be far from the end of the world ..
 
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projectriver said:
For those really bored today, you can watch Ulrich Haas (on our CAS panel) talk about Predictive Analytics in Sport Arbitration. It more enlightening than it sounds btw
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Quite interesting for such a dry subject. Not sure we can take much out of it, but I hope all 3 of them had a good brekky, full English with all the trimmings.
 
karen7 said:
Had anyone thought about how you will feel towards the club if we exhaust all options and are still found guilty? I don't mean towards the manager or the team but towards khaldoon,soriano and our owner
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Whatever happens I think they have behaved impeccably. If we had no option but to evade the cartel's "rules" just to compete, I'd have hoped and expected them to have done just that without a second thought. The options were comply if we could, circumvent the rules if we couldn't. There was no other option except throw up our hands and say "sorry folks, we can't ever compete".

As for "deceiving" the fans, if we were forced to evade these illegitimate "rules", would people really expect them to tell us about it ? "Look City fans, these crooks have stitched us up good and proper but we think we've found a dodge. Just don't tell UEFA".
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's not a court. We won't be "guilty" of anything. It will be that our interpretation of the rules was held to be wrong in the view of the CAS arbitrators.

If CAS find that UEFA's sanction is justified I'll be disappointed but I'll know that it was imposed because the club did it because FFP was in place, seemingly to prevent us achieving what we have in the last 10 years. We did what we had to do, like the householder who stabs the burglar in his house and goes to jail for it.
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I have to say I slightly disagree. I think the executives have a duty of care to the club and the supporters. Whatever they tried to do in 2010-2014, I understand why they did it. However the Football Leaks were incredibly damaging and continue to be. It has allowed the media to characterise the club in a certain light. The only way you can justify that is if you win at CAS.

If they lose then I'd expect lots of blood on the carpet. The damage will be enormous and the ramifications for everyone from squad to the executives will be wide ranging and very negative. This is a watershed moment in the Abu Dhabi ownership, make no mistakes about that. Everyone from Silver Lake to the entire footballing establishment will be looking for a pound of flesh if we're guilty. It really really really doesn't bare thinking about.

Which is why, I'm beginning to think we'll win. You don't take the risk we've just taken by going to CAS, unless you fancy your chances big time.
 
BillyShears said:
I have to say I slightly disagree. I think the executives have a duty of care to the club and the supporters. Whatever they tried to do in 2010-2014, I understand why they did it. However the Football Leaks were incredibly damaging and continue to be. It has allowed the media to characterise the club in a certain light. The only way you can justify that is if you win at CAS.

If they lose then I'd expect lots of blood on the carpet. The damage will be enormous and the ramifications for everyone from squad to the executives will be wide ranging and very negative. This is a watershed moment in the Abu Dhabi ownership, make no mistakes about that. Everyone from Silver Lake to the entire footballing establishment will be looking for a pound of flesh if we're guilty. It really really really doesn't bare thinking about.

Which is why, I'm beginning to think we'll win. You don't take the risk we've just taken by going to CAS, unless you fancy your chances big time.
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dickie davies said:
I've read this post six times and I still don't know what you're trying to say
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He says uefa have been after our club for years and he doesn't care if we cheated or not because they have made the rules just to fuck us over anyway and he will be standing by the club regardless.

He also says City fans stop blaming the club for this and stand firm as they want us to fall out of love with City, (they being the press ****s I think.)
 
I would be amazed if this went in our favour, we just don't get lucky with decisions unless we've secretly bunged these cas members a nice wedge of dough each. A one year ban wouldn't be the end of the world, but still we'd have cheats aimed at us from all and sundry and demands we have trophies taken away from us.
 
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