UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[SebastianBlue]

Bravo! That final line should have been delivered with the slap of a leather glove around his chops.

Leather?

I would do it properly.

 

[Jacko1956]

Not showing anywhere on the site read what you wil

It was also released to American tabloid that's what City complained about to CAS so not sure wete this no

Sorry crashed should read where this no leak story came from.

 

[SkemBlue1]

Little to confirm either way but what is out there seems to indicate we’ve won.

-Cheesy and Sinclair’s Tweets saying exonerated
-The usual suspects who hate us in the press are silent and some even sulking
-Pep’s confidence yesterday
-The general silence from most quarters
-De Bruyne’s agent saying he’s happy, several weeks ago KDB said he’d consider his future if upheld
-PB and another poster have both heard HH S. Mohammed gave evidence in person, that it was him that sent the money, which clears us
-Whispers of high level transfers going ahead and extensions to key players
-General confidence from City and I truly believe if we’d lost they’d be leaking it to soften the blow on Monday

The only way FFP could be effective is to introduce the "Draft" system used in American football. Salary Caps etc.
Without the investment at City we would never be able to stop the "Top Teams" drinking from the Trough that is the Champions League.
Sure there a few EPL teams with a bigger fan base and therefore an assumption is they'd get bigger Sponsorship Deals. Fact is that sponsering a team that plays arguable the most stylish attractive football has some Kudos for the sponsors brand?
Finally Barca and Real get approximately 50% of the Spanish TV money ..... That's fair is it?

 

[BlueTG]

Ironic seeing as Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 and were on the brink of failing again in 2015 before their £50 million Stanley Park FFP fraud. They certainly did 'get away with it' both times.

Can you sum up the Stanley Park instanced briefly? Not heard much about that.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Ironic seeing as Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 and were on the brink of failing again in 2015 before their £50 million Stanley Park FFP fraud. They certainly did 'get away with it' both times.

I must say, I’m sick of reading about this in the papers every day and, when it’s consistently on Sky, BT and the BBC it makes you feel a bit sorry for those cheeky, fun loving Scallies......

 

[SebastianBlue]

Ironic seeing as Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 and were on the brink of failing again in 2015 before their £50 million Stanley Park FFP fraud. They certainly did 'get away with it' both times.

Can you sum up the Stanley Park instanced briefly? Not heard much about that.

Required reading for any blue that ever has to interact with a Liverpool supporter for any reason, at any time:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...xpected-to-escape-fine-for-breaching-FFP.html

 

[manchester blue]

https://news.paddypower.com/footbal...-1-summer-signing-ahead-of-etihad-re-opening/

Typical negative crap written about us.

Don’t take too much notice of Paddy Power mate. They give it out to everyone. True, this is a bit lazy but they even have a dig at Geordies in that piece.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Leather?

I would do it properly.

Would love to do that to Michael Owen.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The only way FFP could be effective is to introduce the "Draft" system used in American football. Salary Caps etc.
Without the investment at City we would never be able to stop the "Top Teams" drinking from the Trough that is the Champions League.
Sure there a few EPL teams with a bigger fan base and therefore an assumption is they'd get bigger Sponsorship Deals. Fact is that sponsering a team that plays arguable the most stylish attractive football has some Kudos for the sponsors brand?
Finally Barca and Real get approximately 50% of the Spanish TV money ..... That's fair is it?

FFP could be more effective if it took a more holistic (is it safe to use that word yet?) look at clubs' financial situations.

At the moment it just looks at the P&L account yet you could have two clubs with identical revenue and bottom lines but one has loads of cash in the bank and the other could be weighed down with debt and struggling to meet the repayments. Currently FFP sees those two as equal, whereas the reality is that the latter is far more at risk than the former.

 

[laserblue]

Can you sum up the Stanley Park instanced briefly? Not heard much about that.

I thought the details were well known but here we go. Liverpool were on the brink of failing FFP and magicked up £50 million (some sources say £35 million) in 'stadium development expenses' for the Stanley Park Project which had already been abandoned years before. They offset this against their FFP losses and UEFA accepted it despite the sum involved being rather a lot for mowing the grass a few times and maybe getting an inital blueprint knocked up.

There's an article in the Telegraph from 2015 but you might have to sign up for a free trial to read it uninterrupted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...xpected-to-escape-fine-for-breaching-FFP.html

 

[SebastianBlue]

Would love to do that to Michael Owen.

Who wouldn’t?

Fairly sure Mrs. Owen would be head of the queue.

 

[Chappie]

So he knows the tea lady - mmmmm

Thats my mother you're talking about,leave it out

 

[SebastianBlue]

I thought the details were well known but here we go. Liverpool were on the brink of failing FFP and magicked up £50 million (some sources say £35 million) in 'stadium development expenses' for the Stanley Park Project which had already been abandoned years before. They offset this against their FFP losses and UEFA accepted it despite the sum involved being rather a lot for mowing the grass a few times and maybe getting an inital blueprint knocked up.

There's an article in the Telegraph from 2015 but you might have to sign up for a free trial to read it uninterrupted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...xpected-to-escape-fine-for-breaching-FFP.html

As I said, people are losing their edge... ;-)

 

[come-on-barney]

Thats my mother you're talking about,leave it out

I bet she knows

 

[SkemBlue1]

FFP could be more effective if it took a more holistic (is it safe to use that word yet?) look at clubs' financial situations.

At the moment it just looks at the P&L account yet you could have two clubs with identical revenue and bottom lines but one has loads of cash in the bank and the other could be weighed down with debt and struggling to meet the repayments. Currently FFP sees those two as equal, whereas the reality is that the latter is far more at risk than the former.

That's the point exactly! As far as I am aware City have no debt and if the owners walked away they would need to sell to the highest bidder. United generate a greater turnover than us but are maintaining huge debt, just like Liverpool. Our owners have also developed a world class academy and invested heavily in the local area. Hopefully the academy will produce many more Fodens in the future.
Just a thought, who was the last team to win the League with all English players? Doubt it will happen again and we'd have missed the likes of Merlin anyway.

 

[Keeper!]

#JusticeForBerts

 

[patrickblue]

Can you sum up the Stanley Park instanced briefly? Not heard much about that.

Not surprised you haven't heard much about it. It was kept very quiet by the media.
Wonder why?

 

[Keeper!]

Not surprised you haven't heard much about it. It was kept very quiet by the media.
Wonder why?

You mean like Heysell and Hacking a competitors scouting database?

 

[Barcon]

You rang?

You refer to yourself as a Bert, do you not?

 

[SkemBlue1]

That's the point exactly! As far as I am aware City have no debt and if the owners walked away they would need to sell to the highest bidder. United generate a greater turnover than us but are maintaining huge debt, just like Liverpool. Our owners have also developed a world class academy and invested heavily in the local area. Hopefully the academy will produce many more Fodens in the future.
Just a thought, who was the last team to win the League with all English players? Doubt it will happen again and we'd have missed the likes of Merlin anyway.

FFP and fair? A player may choose to get 200K a week in a country where they pay less tax so that skews Financially Fair also.