UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Peps speak moved significantly around 10 days ago. I’m a pretty standard fella, but I have enough common sense to be able to relate that to the likely point we were notified of outcome.

He has given nothing away, but continually speaking up our participation in next seasons champions league are the musings of a very smart individual.

Those who can read between the lines will understand this.

Had we lost, I am certain, absolutely certain, that Peps talk lines would be nowhere close to the ones we have had.

He isn’t stupid enough to leave himself hanging and the way he has communicated would certainly have done that.

You're right. Pep has been unrelentingly upbeat of late, there's no hint of hedging bets or keeping ones council, it's too genuine to be contrived.
 
I shall look forward to that! I think we've basically known since the hearing that we'd won the case. Concrete evidence that Sheikh Mansour wasn't putting money in via Etihad will have been put in front of CAS and UEFA would have had no response. I suspect we'll find that the case was effectively won as soon as the hearing closed.

The initial vibe from within the club was one of positivity immediately after the hearing.

@Ric had confirmed this.

I really don’t understand how some people can construe from the info given that absolutely nobody would know the outcome until Monday.

I just can’t compute it.
 
If you knew the outcome was an upheld ban would you have allowed Pep to go in front of the world’s media yesterday and say he was confident the ban would be overturned?

I’m not putting any stock in anything people like Cheeseman are saying - the smoking gun here is that City know the result and we allowed Pep to talk about it in the way he did.

Absolutely, the club think the world of Pep, no way on gods green earth they let him go out to face the media without giving him some kind of knowledge.
 
Tbh if we'd won and I was someone at the club who knew, I'd leak to Delaney, Harris and that lot that we'd lost, along with a few big names who now want to leave. Let them get giddy for a few days and then drown them in their bitterness and shame on Monday. Maybe that's just me though...
 
For what it's worth, word over here in Germany over the last few days or so is we've been completely exonerated.

A couple of colleagues were working on the Sane/Bayern story and still have decent contacts with people around Pep.

Interestingly, people at Bayern also apparently know the outcome and have been surprisingly relaxed about it, especially considering they were one of the major driving forces behind the Der Spiegel stuff (which is a preety fascinating story in its own right and I'll get around to sharing once the CAS verdict is made official).

I'm not surprised Bayern arent bothered.

Domestically they are protected by 50+1 and in Europe we just arent that big a threat. We have never knocked them out.

I dont think they like us, but it's not comparable to the top to bottom hatred with United and Liverpool.
 
I shall look forward to that! I think we've basically known since the hearing that we'd won the case. Concrete evidence that Sheikh Mansour wasn't putting money in via Etihad will have been put in front of CAS and UEFA would have had no response. I suspect we'll find that the case was effectively won as soon as the hearing closed.
I’ve grown to love you over the years PB.
 
Would be even funnier if we’d won but the club leaked it out that we’d lost just for a laugh. It would be hell for us lot all weekend but worth it to see the meltdown - once CAS released the true decision - from all the dickhead journalists and thick as fuck opposition fans who believed what they read in the newspapers because it suited their agenda!

The sinister, mischievous side of me would love that to happen, it would be comedy gold !
 
Tbh if we'd won and I was someone at the club who knew, I'd leak to Delaney, Harris and that lot that we'd lost, along with a few big names who now want to leave. Let them get giddy for a few days and then drown them in their bitterness and shame on Monday. Maybe that's just me though...

Probably just as well that those in power at the club are barely aware of these people's existence.
 
assuming city know the result then why the silence,. are we open to court action should we spill the beans before the official statement from CAS or is this just a formal agreement between all parties involved, if they 'UEFA' didnt want the result to conflict with the draw then why couldnt we have had a statement this morning its not hard to make a statement on there website, this leads me to think that the club has no idea of the outcome and may only get that information an hour or so before a public statement from CAS

professionalism
 
assuming city know the result then why the silence,. are we open to court action should we spill the beans before the official statement from CAS or is this just a formal agreement between all parties involved, if they 'UEFA' didnt want the result to conflict with the draw then why couldnt we have had a statement this morning its not hard to make a statement on there website, this leads me to think that the club has no idea of the outcome and may only get that information an hour or so before a public statement from CAS

It seems both parties agreed for the verdict to be put back from yesterday to Monday so Saturday (today) doesn’t really come into it. I’d be very surprised if neither party knows the result by now and if (note I said if) it’s a win for us then it would be a bit crass to leak it in advance that we’d won.
 
Do you hope, though?

Do you?

I looked up the meaning of the word “paranoia”

Paranoia is thinking and feeling like you are being threatened in some way, even if there is no evidence, or very little evidence, that you are. Paranoid thoughts can also be described as delusions. There are lots of different kinds of threat you might be scared and worried about.
 
For what it's worth, word over here in Germany over the last few days or so is we've been completely exonerated.

A couple of colleagues were working on the Sane/Bayern story and still have decent contacts with people around Pep.

Interestingly, people at Bayern also apparently know the outcome and have been surprisingly relaxed about it, especially considering they were one of the major driving forces behind the Der Spiegel stuff (which is a preety fascinating story in its own right and I'll get around to sharing once the CAS verdict is made official).

Bayern behind the DS story, well colour me surprised.

I await your post with interest.
 
For what it's worth, word over here in Germany over the last few days or so is we've been completely exonerated.

A couple of colleagues were working on the Sane/Bayern story and still have decent contacts with people around Pep.

Interestingly, people at Bayern also apparently know the outcome and have been surprisingly relaxed about it, especially considering they were one of the major driving forces behind the Der Spiegel stuff (which is a preety fascinating story in its own right and I'll get around to sharing once the CAS verdict is made official).
Well you've done it now, you're the first person I've followed on here.
 
You many well have no beef with Ian, but it certainly comes off as though you do in the tonality of your posting.
By my standards I would have thought my tone was very mellow tbh! Let me be clear, I like Ian Cheeseman, he is a Blue, he shouldn’t have been sacked by the BBC (Biased Bastard Cunnts), but I don’t think he was privvy to the CAS decision when he tweeted yesterday. It’s an opinion
 
It seems both parties agreed for the verdict to be put back from yesterday to Monday so Saturday (today) doesn’t really come into it. I’d be very surprised if neither party knows the result by now and if (note I said if) it’s a win for us then it would be a bit crass to leak it in advance that we’d won.

I have no knowledge off CAS but I do not know any other courts or tribunal where 'participants' know the verdict well before it becomes public.

Any ITKs have a 50% chance so better odds than normal. Even if UEFA know city are guilty as charged they would not have the access to prove it to a third party, so it is not surprising people are confident on the City side.
 
the tea leaves say :

1 – Present
This tea cup reveals a Flowers
Single blossoms denote a favor granted. A bouquet signifies good things, a sign of marriage.

2 – Near Future
This tea cup reveals a Snake
Beware of conniving and deceit among “friends.” Also refers to healing and wisdom.

3 – Distant future
This tea cup reveals a Two
Warns of dualism, avoid double games. Maintain honesty.

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