UEFA Independent Inquiry

The next stage of this will be: OK, yes, there were loads of fake tickets. Those poor Liverpool fans just didn’t know and paid thousands for them! They’re victims of fraud and police brutality.

I wonder if any of the dippers with real tickets will ever stop to think how much easier their lives would’ve been if it wasn’t for their numb nut fellow supporters trying to get in knowing their ticket was fake. In most groups of people there’d be a degree of self policing, “don’t do that mate, that’s dodgy as fuck”. Amongst the dippers the opposite seems to happen. A result, I suppose, of their proud anarchist streak that has resulted in their city going from amongst the richest in the world to its present condition. I doubt they’ll ever learn, they haven’t when these incidents have happened before.
 
Chris B said:
The next stage of this will be: OK, yes, there were loads of fake tickets. Those poor Liverpool fans just didn’t know and paid thousands for them! They’re victims of fraud and police brutality.

I wonder if any of the dippers with real tickets will ever stop to think how much easier their lives would’ve been if it wasn’t for their numb nut fellow supporters trying to get in knowing their ticket was fake. In most groups of people there’d be a degree of self policing, “don’t do that mate, that’s dodgy as fuck”. Amongst the dippers the opposite seems to happen. A result, I suppose, of their proud anarchist streak that has resulted in their city going from amongst the richest in the world to its present condition. I doubt they’ll ever learn, they haven’t when these incidents have happened before.
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I reckon a lot of these fans who go have no idea that they are buying fakes, they are probably not even season ticket holders & buy them from sites thinking it’s all legit. Maybe this time the forgers have got carried away / greedy printing & selling 40k.
 
Chris B said:
The next stage of this will be: OK, yes, there were loads of fake tickets. Those poor Liverpool fans just didn’t know and paid thousands for them! They’re victims of fraud and police brutality.

I wonder if any of the dippers with real tickets will ever stop to think how much easier their lives would’ve been if it wasn’t for their numb nut fellow supporters trying to get in knowing their ticket was fake. In most groups of people there’d be a degree of self policing, “don’t do that mate, that’s dodgy as fuck”. Amongst the dippers the opposite seems to happen. A result, I suppose, of their proud anarchist streak that has resulted in their city going from amongst the richest in the world to its present condition. I doubt they’ll ever learn, they haven’t when these incidents have happened before.
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Are you trying to suggest scousers are thick thieving scumbags?

Well I never.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Fake tickets presented on an "industrial Scale" About 70% of tickets presented by about 62,000 Liverpool fans were fake...
www.theguardian.com

Fake tickets on ‘industrial scale’ caused Paris chaos, says French minister

France’s interior minister has said he regrets the ‘disorganised welcome’ Liverpool fans received at the Champions League final but blamed counterfeit ticket sales on an ‘industrial scale’ for chaotic scenes
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Liverpool received an allocation of 19,618 tickets.
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The Guardian went on to say "Television footage showed images of young men, who did not appear to be wearing Liverpool colours, climbing over the stadium fences and jumping inside", completely ignoring the fact that there is tonnes of footage online of shirt wearing fans climbing the fences and clattering through the turnstiles. Also conveniently skipping over the fact that all the stairs and walkways were RAMMED at the Dipper's end which means they'd taken up their allotted seating AND filled the walkways AND there were still fans outside with 'tickets'.

We can argue all day about the number of fakes, but that detracts from the ABSOLUTE FACT that a vast number of THEIR fans entered or attempted to enter the ground with either a fake ticket or no ticket at all, and that's on THEM.
 
I hope UEFA's enquiry is as thorough and successful as the Mersyside police investigation into the disgraceful smashing up of our coach. That is it absolves themselves and the French police and government of any blame whatsoever. Unfair? Yes but suck it up scousers!

Just like a cockroach invasion you don't think, "Hey we've been told this breed of cockroaches are no danger to our health and safety." You remember all the damage they've caused in the past and gas the fuckers. Allez allez allez!!!
 
cheekybids said:
I reckon a lot of these fans who go have no idea that they are buying fakes, they are probably not even season ticket holders & buy them from sites thinking it’s all legit. Maybe this time the forgers have got carried away / greedy printing & selling 40k.
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You'd have to be stupid not to know.... Oh, hang on, you might be right ;-)
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
The Guardian went on to say "Television footage showed images of young men, who did not appear to be wearing Liverpool colours, climbing over the stadium fences and jumping inside", completely ignoring the fact that there is tonnes of footage online of shirt wearing fans climbing the fences and clattering through the turnstiles. Also conveniently skipping over the fact that all the stairs and walkways were RAMMED at the Dipper's end which means they'd taken up their allotted seating AND filled the walkways AND there were still fans outside with 'tickets'.

We can argue all day about the number of fakes, but that detracts from the ABSOLUTE FACT that a vast number of THEIR fans entered or attempted to enter the ground with either a fake ticket or no ticket at all, and that's on THEM.
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Not every match going fan wears a club shirt
 
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