Yeh I fancy us to win the league, so the seeding isn't the major issue.
The issue for me is prize money being allocated relative to coefficients.
Gill and his cronies have introduced FFP rules that essentially state spending on players must come from revenue. They are now introducing new rules that restrict our ability to increase revenue, while increasing their own.
Giving themselves extra coefficient points, and therefore extra money, based on trophies won 50 years ago, to me is an absurdity.
How Martin Samuel is the only journalist with the balls and intergrity to highlight Gill's conflict of interest is an absolute scandal.
The absolute crux of the matter. The time surely has come for competing clubs to reject these unjustified and corrupt changes.
I reject them mate, and that's why I'll boo the UEFA anthem at the top of my lungs at every CL game I attend.
Totally accept your stance and that of every supporter who does the same.
But my concern is what steps our management , and the management of other clubs affected are doing to stop such flagrant abuse and corruption. It would seem that United and the Milan teams are the biggest " pigs at the trough " , based upon a historical standing ??
Fuck progress and the future ...................... let's protect " the greedy and entitled has beens " .
The correct term to describe these proposals/regulations is 'cheating'. If the new head man at UEFA means a scrap of what he has said about this new 'deal' it should be consigned to the waste bin and it should be made plain to the barons of Milan and Stretford that if they wish to break away they may do so, but that they and their players will never again be allowed to take part in any UEFA/FIFA tournament. Could anyone tell me who holds the registration of the players because if it is a UEFA/FIFA affiliated association, presumably the contracts would lapse as soon as the club left the bosom of the official body. I can't see too many clubs or players following Marchetti into the wilderness. 7777
Gill's should be terminated forthwith.[/QUOTE] - corrected for accuracy .
The correct term to describe these proposals/regulations is 'cheating'. If the new head man at UEFA means a scrap of what he has said about this new 'deal' it should be consigned to the waste bin and it should be made plain to the barons of Milan and Stretford that if they wish to break away they may do so, but that they and their players will never again be allowed to take part in any UEFA/FIFA tournament. Could anyone tell me who holds the registration of the players because if it is a UEFA/FIFA affiliated association, presumably the contracts would lapse as soon as the club left the bosom of the official body. I can't see too many clubs or players following Marchetti into the wilderness. Gill's career at UEFA should be terminated forthwith.
It would be a pretty shit breakaway competition if Milan and United were the main teams! :-)
If this gets the go ahead it will be just the start. Next will be automatic qualification for clubs who meet a certain criteria irrespective of where they finish in their leagues. Won three or more champions leagues?...You're in!
UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin suffers blow as he won't be able to change Champions League format for minimum of five years
- Aleksander Ceferin won't be able to change format for at least five years
- This is according to sources close to the executive committee
- Last week Ceferin replaced France legend Michel Platini as the UEFA chief
By ROB DRAPER FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
New UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin will not be able to change the Champions League format for at least five years, according to sources close to the executive committee.
Ceferin is the little-known Slovenian lawyer who last week replaced charismatic France legend Michel Platini as UEFA chief, garnering votes on the back of anger from smaller nations at a new Champions League deal which favours English, German, Italian and Spanish clubs and gives them 16 of the 32 group-stage slots from 2018.
But the deal, brokered by FA vice chairman David Gill, was explained in more depth last week at a seminar following the election of Ceferin.
Aleksander Ceferin can't change the new Champions League format for at least five years
Members of UEFA’s executive committee, who have already agreed the deal with the major clubs and their representative body, the European Club Association, believe their explanation went some way to defusing the anger of the smaller federations. But it did little to placate European Leagues supremo Lars-Christer Olsson.
‘It’s a scandal,’ said Olsson, head of European Professional Football Leagues, which includes the Premier League. ‘It was all too rushed. Why is Uefa surrendering to the top clubs? We are asking UEFA to start the process again. There has been no proper consultation. We have an understanding with Uefa but if we terminate this our leagues will be able to play when they like.
‘This is not just sabre-rattling, it’s a serious threat.’
In the seminar, at which Gill spoke, it was spelt out that the threat of a breakaway league by bigger clubs was credible and UEFA had at least negotiated a deal which continued the flow of money to smaller nations.
Ceferin’s revolt against the new Champions League format was the centre-piece of his election campaign but he will have wait until 2021, when the deal runs out, to make major changes, though he may not be president then. Ceferin will complete Platini’s four-year term until 2019, with the former president forced out in disgrace.
Hidden away in the Champions league section on the web site (more prominant on a middle page in the printed Sports section):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ampions-League-format-minimum-five-years.html
Every single football reporter not pouring scorn on this should hang their head in shame. It seems only Martin Samuel is giving it coverage to any real extent.
Me tooI reject them mate, and that's why I'll boo the UEFA anthem at the top of my lungs at every CL game I attend.