Uefas new money laws?

[leighton]

With all this money fair play that Uefa are intorducing in the coming years could this lead to the end of investment into those clubs needing the investment not us mind. So take a club like Everton if they get taken over when the Uefa rules are introduced how does it work. Will there new owners get fined for taking over and going over there so called fair play investment into the a club or will UEFA have some sort of ruling to let investment happen in certain cases or not. This may well be the making or breaking of many clubs and how are those clubs going to get anywere without investment to move them up the table and to get more money in.

Also add the RAGS into it as well when the shit hits the fans there how are Uefa going to cover up the mess there and at Real to let them compete in there Champions league and Europa leagues in the future.

 

[squirtyflower]

With all this money fair play that Uefa are intorducing in the coming years could this lead to the end of investment into those clubs needing the investment not us mind. So take a club like Everton if they get taken over when the Uefa rules are introduced how does it work. Will there new owners get fined for taking over and going over there so called fair play investment into the a club or will UEFA have some sort of ruling to let investment happen in certain cases or not. This may well be the making or breaking of many clubs and how are those clubs going to get anywere without investment to move them up the table and to get more money in.

Also add the RAGS into it as well when the shit hits the fans there how are Uefa going to cover up the mess there and at Real to let them compete in there Champions league and Europa leagues in the future.

don't worry about the rags, real or barca, whatever happens uefa want them in the CL as they make them lots of money

 

[blueinsa]

don't worry about the rags, real or barca, whatever happens uefa want them in the CL as they make them lots of money

Exactly and the lawyers will have a field day the minute Platini tries to enforce the politics of envy that Gill and his mates have concocted.

 

[RabidCity]

For the rags nothing to worry about.. The operating profit posted by the club is likely to mean they meet the requirements. At the end of the day as a business they are profitable, just weighed down by financing which is only reflected in the net figure. Net Losses are sustainable over a longer period providing they service the debt, Operating losses are not.

 

[daveduke67]

If they want fair play they should make allowances for taxation laws in variuos countries. Spain has reduced its upper rate from 43% to 23% for people earning over 600,000 Euros - of the 60 people who qualify 43 are footballers.

That means that a Spanish player who is paid £50k a week would have to be paid £80k by an English team to have the same take home pay!

We have far too many people earning over £500k a year over here for the Govt. to drop our upper tax band to 23%

City, or any other British club for that matter, have to take £40million a year from their income for salaries, whereas Real Madrid only have to find £25million to give its players the same take home pay.

And that's fair is it?

 

[blueinsa]

The operating profit posted by the club is likely to mean they meet the requirements. At the end of the day as a business they are profitable, just weighed down by financing which is only reflected in the net figure. Net Losses are sustainable, Operating losses are not.

All good and well mate but the realities of this will mean a club like ourselves being banned from a compation for effectively being free of debt whilst a club from stretford, balls deep in a Billion quids worth are told to just carry on! Every few years madrid go cap in hand to the royal family, will that be ok or will they get banned?

Not a fucking chance of this happening imo, the lawyers will rip it too shreds.

Nothing more than the politics of envy, designed to protect the old guard.

 

[RabidCity]

The operating profit posted by the club is likely to mean they meet the requirements. At the end of the day as a business they are profitable, just weighed down by financing which is only reflected in the net figure. Net Losses are sustainable, Operating losses are not.

All good and well mate but the realities of this will mean a club like ourselves being banned from a compation for effectively being free of debt whilst a club from stretford, balls deep in a Billion quids worth are told to just carry on! Every few years madrid go cap in hand to the royal family, will that be ok or will they get banned?

Not a fucking chance of this happening imo, the lawyers will rip it too shreds.

Nothing more than the politics of envy, designed to protect the old guard.

I agree with what your saying, but since the whole point of FFP is to stop Manchester City it does not surprise me it is added in this way. Time will tell, as posted in many threads they will have accountants and lawyers all over it.

 

[Lordeffingham]

In relation to all the differing scenarios suggested by all sorts of people and from varying sources, lets get one thing straight before we continue.

In Football, whether English League, English F.A., P.F.A, UEFA or any other body with some remit of control or governing stance, Rules are often thought up and often implimented with no more substance than are ultimately accepted by those to which the 'New Rules' apply.

It certainly won't be the first or last time an organisation like UEFA has drawn up a set of rules, that when first implimented are challenged from a 'Real' legal perspective, have been found to be full of holes, and have then been withdrawn or changed due to simple elements which would likely infringe unfairly on an even and open market.

Once, and only once these rules are effectively put into action and show for the first time, any signs of having a detremental effect on any Club, which would undoubtedly be claimed as being unfair and discriminatory, would there be a legal challenge. This would probably be in line with rules regarding Trade, Employment Law and similar such British and EEC legislation.

I have a sneaking feeling as in the cold war years, when it was a case of who's Russian scientists were the best, this matter will be down to who's organisation has the best team of legal experts.

Now who thinks for a second someone with the amount of money behind him that our sheikh has, he will be bullied by some French Tart and an industry employing Fcukwits like Garth Crooks, David Gil, Phil Gartside and Gordon Taylor?

The embarrassment about to be heaped on FIFA with the World Cup votes scandal is just another example of organisations who like to lay down the law, piously preach about their power and history of brilliance in sport, but when it comes down to it, they are clueless cnuts, who wouldn't survive for a second in the real world should their sheep like followers might stand up against their ridiculous ideals, decisions and rules based on nothing more than the pipe dreams and whims or power hungry half wits.

I don't think Platini's brainwave will see the light of day before it is squashed like an ant under the hob nail boot of some legal genius, and think our even giving it serious thought, is crazy, we haven't arrived where we are today, for some prick with illusions of grandure to steal our fucking thunder!

The future's bright, the future's BLUE.

 

[blueinsa]

All good and well mate but the realities of this will mean a club like ourselves being banned from a compation for effectively being free of debt whilst a club from stretford, balls deep in a Billion quids worth are told to just carry on! Every few years madrid go cap in hand to the royal family, will that be ok or will they get banned?

Not a fucking chance of this happening imo, the lawyers will rip it too shreds.

Nothing more than the politics of envy, designed to protect the old guard.

I agree with what your saying, but since the whole point of FFP is to stop Manchester City it does not surprise me it is added in this way. Time will tell, as posted in many threads they will have accountants and lawyers all over it.

I can understand envious fans and their bile but for me, its about time the money men, the chairmen etc of football clubs turned around and started to be honest about our situation instead of just spouting the usual bollox.

Not one of them would turn down an owner like ours, not one and i include the rags, Arse, Barca etc and a quick one for all the whingers, Twatini included, were do you think all the money we have spent of late has gone?

Thats right, in to football...to clubs in desperate need of it due to the greed shown and applauded at the time by the Rags, Barca's and Liverpools of this world.

FFs, we have an owner who is about to pile a Billion quids worth of investement into a city, creating wealth, jobs etc and his thankyou will be a ban from compatition whilst down the road, owners who have saddled a club with the biggest debt in football, owners who line their own pockets, owners who are derided by their own fans will effectively be given a great big thumbs up by Twatini.

Buy UEFA City please and burn the fucking thing down!<br /><br />-- Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:04 pm --<br /><br />

In relation to all the differing scenarios suggested by all sorts of people and from varying sources, lets get one thing straight before we continue.

In Football, whether English League, English F.A., P.F.A, UEFA or any other body with some remit of control or governing stance, Rules are often thought up and often implimented with no more substance than are ultimately accepted by those to which the 'New Rules' apply.

It certainly won't be the first or last time an organisation like UEFA has drawn up a set of rules, that when first implimented are challenged from a 'Real' legal perspective, have been found to be full of holes, and have then been withdrawn or changed due to simple elements which would likely infringe unfairly on an even and open market.

Once, and only once these rules are effectively put into action and show for the first time, any signs of having a detremental effect on any Club, which would undoubtedly be claimed as being unfair and discriminatory, would there be a legal challenge. This would probably be in line with rules regarding Trade, Employment Law and similar such British and EEC legislation.

I have a sneaking feeling as in the cold war years, when it was a case of who's Russian scientists were the best, this matter will be down to who's organisation has the best team of legal experts.

Now who thinks for a second someone with the amount of money behind him that our sheikh has, he will be bullied by some French Tart and an industry employing Fcukwits like Garth Crooks, David Gil, Phil Gartside and Gordon Taylor?

The embarrassment about to be heaped on FIFA with the World Cup votes scandal is just another example of organisations who like to lay down the law, piously preach about their power and history of brilliance in sport, but when it comes down to it, they are clueless cnuts, who wouldn't survive for a second in the real world should their sheep like followers might stand up against their ridiculous ideals, decisions and rules based on nothing more than the pipe dreams and whims or power hungry half wits.

I don't think Platini's brainwave will see the light of day before it is squashed like an ant under the hob nail boot of some legal genius, and think our even giving it serious thought, is crazy, we haven't arrived where we are today, for some prick with illusions of grandure to steal our fucking thunder!

The future's bright, the future's BLUE.

Here...fucking...here!

Lordeffingham for UEFA presidency!

 

[cerebum]

This is the most flawed regulation I have seen! Aspirational clubs will be in a position where buying the players they need to qualify for Europe will bar them from the same competition. Equally, Players will look at the smaller clubs and not be interested in going for the same reasons. The big teams will just get bigger widening the gap to the rest. Our take over was only just in time (although you could speculate that had Sheik Mansoor taken over Liverpool the regs would not have been introduced!).

A better way would have been to say that if your debt is a certain percentage of your income then you are barred, but that would upset the rags and UEFA would never do that to their darlings!