UFO decent footage, IMO. You?

Gelsons Dad said:
buzzer1 said:
Half the time probably not even visited but sharing the same planet. Just one question to you, how do you explain the centuries old paintings on the inside of caves ie in Peru to name but one country, and also carvings on wood and rock of not only hyroglifics(or is this just an ancient way of communicating between humans) but actual saucer shaped objects? Also do you believe a bunch of Nasa Scientists on disclosure and indeed have you ever seen the disclosure project?

centuries old! we've been here for more than 6 million years mate and drawing pictures for a very long time. now if you would like to be more specific about which pictures you think are spaceships I will offer an opinion on them.

Just a question for you though, when did the idea of saucer shaped space craft become popular?

Just a question for you? What do yo think of Allan Harpers excellent postings? and maybe anyother sceptics would care to join in.
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KRDE-CzRhU&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KRDE-Cz ... re=related</a>

this is some decent ufo footage
 
buzzer1 said:
Gelsons Dad said:
centuries old! we've been here for more than 6 million years mate and drawing pictures for a very long time. now if you would like to be more specific about which pictures you think are spaceships I will offer an opinion on them.

Just a question for you though, when did the idea of saucer shaped space craft become popular?

Just a question for you? What do yo think of Allan Harpers excellent postings? and maybe anyother sceptics would care to join in.

Since the question of when saucer shaped objects became popular is being ignored, I'll answer it.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold saw 9 boomerang shaped objects and described their movement as being like a saucer skipping over water. Notice how he did not refer to their shape as being like a saucer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html</a>

Since then, most UFO sightings have been of saucer-shaped objects, which shows that the phenomena has more to do with cognitive processes than with anything that's actually happening in the sky. Most UFO sightings turn out to have pretty mundane explanations. They're usually planets, satellites, balloons or Chinese lanterns:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/30/lanterns-cast-light-on-ufo-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/3 ... fo-claims/</a>
 
Since the question of when saucer shaped objects become popular is being ignored, I'll answer it.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold saw 9 boomerang shaped objects and described their movement as being like a saucer skipping over water. Notice how he did not refer to their shape as being like a saucer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html</a>

Since then, most UFO sightings have been of saucer-shaped objects, which shows that the phenomena has more to do with cognitive processes than with anything that's actually happening in the sky. Most UFO sightings turn out to have pretty mundane explanations. They're usually planets, satellites, balloons or Chinese lanterns:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/30/lanterns-cast-light-on-ufo-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/3 ... fo-claims/</a>[/quote]

Hello Alabaster, could you try and explain the Istanbul footage to me? I posted a link earlier in this thread.
 
buzzer1 said:
alabaster said:
Since the question of when saucer shaped objects become popular is being ignored, I'll answer it.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold saw 9 boomerang shaped objects and described their movement as being like a saucer skipping over water. Notice how he did not refer to their shape as being like a saucer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html</a>

Since then, most UFO sightings have been of saucer-shaped objects, which shows that the phenomena has more to do with cognitive processes than with anything that's actually happening in the sky. Most UFO sightings turn out to have pretty mundane explanations. They're usually planets, satellites, balloons or Chinese lanterns:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/30/lanterns-cast-light-on-ufo-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/3 ... fo-claims/</a>

Hello Alabaster, could you try and explain the Istanbul footage to me? I posted a link earlier in this thread.

Well it's difficult to tell anything from such a poorly shot video, but it looks like some kind of cargo ship in fog to me. It's impossible to identify what the night-time footage is, but I couldn't rule out that it's a fake.
 
alabaster said:
buzzer1 said:
Hello Alabaster, could you try and explain the Istanbul footage to me? I posted a link earlier in this thread.

Well it's difficult to tell anything from such a poorly shot video, but it looks like some kind of cargo ship in fog to me. It's impossible to identify what the night-time footage is, but I couldn't rule out that it's a fake.

Cheers. Mate, its in the sky.
 
alabaster said:
buzzer1 said:
Just a question for you? What do yo think of Allan Harpers excellent postings? and maybe anyother sceptics would care to join in.

Since the question of when saucer shaped objects became popular is being ignored, I'll answer it.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold saw 9 boomerang shaped objects and described their movement as being like a saucer skipping over water. Notice how he did not refer to their shape as being like a saucer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html</a>

Since then, most UFO sightings have been of saucer-shaped objects, which shows that the phenomena has more to do with cognitive processes than with anything that's actually happening in the sky. Most UFO sightings turn out to have pretty mundane explanations. They're usually planets, satellites, balloons or Chinese lanterns:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/30/lanterns-cast-light-on-ufo-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/3 ... fo-claims/</a>

'Chinese lanterns' in the Christ depictions and in the early man drawings!

I've heard it all...
 
buzzer1 said:
Since the question of when saucer shaped objects become popular is being ignored, I'll answer it.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold saw 9 boomerang shaped objects and described their movement as being like a saucer skipping over water. Notice how he did not refer to their shape as being like a saucer.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html</a>

Since then, most UFO sightings have been of saucer-shaped objects, which shows that the phenomena has more to do with cognitive processes than with anything that's actually happening in the sky. Most UFO sightings turn out to have pretty mundane explanations. They're usually planets, satellites, balloons or Chinese lanterns:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/30/lanterns-cast-light-on-ufo-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/07/3 ... fo-claims/</a>

Hello Alabaster, could you try and explain the Istanbul footage to me? I posted a link earlier in this thread.

The istanbul footage starts with the bow of a ship through a long lens then a shot upwards from the quay looking at the part of the bridge exposed over the side. The top of the bridge is illuminated. Later on there is a man standing on the bridge who the video claims is an alien.

It's one of the weakest claims I've ever seen and quite frankly laughable that anyone could be taken in by it. As for the art works Artistic Impression covers all of them. If Aert de Gelder or any of the other artists who's work is claimed to contain UFO's knew about them why is there NO written record of UFS from the same period (18th century to save you trying to find out) or later until we get to the mid 20th century? Couldn't really be a secret if they are in so many paintings!

Some people believe in ghost, some in UFO others in various gods. There is no empirical evidence to support any of them.
 

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