UK State Pension

If you are careful (been talking at work about this as I plan to go in 5 years when I’m 61)

You get £12k tax free

And e.g. your 25% pot is £100k

You can spread that over 10 years taking £10k per year this £22k per year

Hey presto no tax and the remaining money continues to grow
I think it’s different when taking into account the State Pension which I get. I can still access the 25% tax free portion but anything else I release is subject to 20% income tax but as a drawdown I can take an amount every year that doesn’t land me in the higher bracket and as you say the pension (mine is a SIP which has grown exponentially) continues to grow. If any of that is incorrect I’m open to being educated.
 
Both my parents saved up for their old age and when they both had to go into a care home they were the only ones who had to pay, over £1200 per week.
All the other residents had their care paid for by the council as they had no savings etc.
Enjoy life whilst you’re still able……
It is disgusting how people who look after their money and never sponge off the State are treated when they eventually need care.
 
It is disgusting how people who look after their money and never sponge off the State are treated when they eventually need care.
Idiotic post.
You want a shithole of a care home - spend up.
If you want any dignity and decent care - save.

I speak from experience.
 
Idiotic post.
You want a shithole of a care home - spend up.
If you want any dignity and decent care - save.

I speak from experience.
Weird post that makes no logical sense as the parents who saved up was in the same place receiving the same "shit" care as the ones that had nothing.
 
My forecast for September. This year is £13080 per year. No idea why it’s more than standard.
As said previously some of us had NI deductions that included SERPS etc for a few years.
This means we get a reduced State Pension but an added different State benefit. At age 80 you also get an extra 5p per week I think. All these combine to more than the full basic State Pension.

Please find your original letter for State Pension where it is detailed or ask them to detail your individual payment. They use this as the basis for future increases so don't bother to show the detail year on year.
 
Ok thanks. In which case you're probably already paying 20% tax on the amount above £12570.
Rachel Reeves did say on the Martin Lewis show they were looking at a way to avoid any Seniors paying income tax if only receiving the State Pension. That’s my dilemma, I do only receive the SP but I have my draw down which I haven’t used yet, it’s been growing at a healthy rate until the Iran war so I’m really not sure how that affects my tax liability. I know as soon as I do draw down I will be taxed but I’m not intending to do so just yet.
 
Rachel Reeves did say on the Martin Lewis show they were looking at a way to avoid any Seniors paying income tax if only receiving the State Pension. That’s my dilemma, I do only receive the SP but I have my draw down which I haven’t used yet, it’s been growing at a healthy rate until the Iran war so I’m really not sure how that affects my tax liability. I know as soon as I do draw down I will be taxed but I’m not intending to do so just yet.
If she intends to use the Spanish tax way then here if the only pension is State you don't pay tax until over ca 20k euro pa but just one small extra pension and the whole is taxed after allowances.

However man and partner can both earn a UK state pension and get zero tax on each if they live in Spain and have no other pensions.

Other income such as a capital gain on an investment has its own tax rates. I presume your draw down option is a pension fund so may be different rules for that.
 
Rachel Reeves did say on the Martin Lewis show they were looking at a way to avoid any Seniors paying income tax if only receiving the State Pension. That’s my dilemma, I do only receive the SP but I have my draw down which I haven’t used yet, it’s been growing at a healthy rate until the Iran war so I’m really not sure how that affects my tax liability. I know as soon as I do draw down I will be taxed but I’m not intending to do so just yet.
Are you paying any tax already? I'd be surprised if not. Your SIPP grows tax free and only becomes liable on drawdown-after the 25% Tax Free Cash of course. If your SIPP is flexible, you should be able to drawdown a mix of TFC and taxable. It's no good having saved a pension not spending it just to avoid what may be a very small amount of tax.
 
I didn't even know the class 2 existed. I've always assumed it would cost be about a grand a year.
Until this year expats could pay £180 a year voluntary class 2 for a full year’s NI.

 
Why are you so rude and unsympathetic to anyone who doesn’t subscribe to your “perfect” life? It’s shocking at times, you don’t need to be so personal.
How many care homes have you visited for parents?
I visited dozens for my mother in law and my cousin.
I wouldn’t put a dog in most of them.
My cousin is paying over £80K a year for hers. She can afford it. It’s the best dementia home I have ever visited.
My mother in law’s was so bad we would have removed her if she had hadn’t died.
 
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I know I can draw 25% tax free but fortunately I don’t need it just yet and before the malarkey in Iran my pot had grown by 13% since last July. No idea what it is now as the app I have is accessed by an OTP which I can’t get as I’m in Spain until this Friday.
Sadly you missed out. The 25% is calculated on the value as at the point you made/make the 1st drawdown. So hitting a peak value point gives you a high 25% value even if you only take a small amount.
 
How many care homes have you visited for parents?
I visited dozens for my mother in law and my cousin.
I wouldn’t put a dog in most of them.
My cousin is paying over £80K a year for hers. She can afford it. It’s the best dementia home I have ever visited.
My mother in law’s was so bad we would have removed her if she had hadn’t died.
Same, visited dozens, some seemed awful, some not suitable as MiL had a special wheelchair. These were converted houses and doorways plus lifts not suitable.

She passed away in a wonderful one which her husband is now in. It's got a bar, bistro (for free coffee/cake etc), cinema. He pays £7k a month
 
Are you paying any tax already? I'd be surprised if not. Your SIPP grows tax free and only becomes liable on drawdown-after the 25% Tax Free Cash of course. If your SIPP is flexible, you should be able to drawdown a mix of TFC and taxable. It's no good having saved a pension not spending it just to avoid what may be a very small amount of tax.
No tax just yet as this years State Pension is about 12,900 so technically around 330 to be taxed but Reeves said she would find a way not to tax pensions if that was the only income.

I’m living off SP and drawing money from my ISA’s at the moment, I don’t need the draw down just yet and it was doing very well, through a company called Haven Direct who advised me to leave it invested as the two funds I’ve invested in rose 51 and 80% in the previous 5 years.
 

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