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Exeter Blue I am here said:
They are, but unfortunately I find it difficult to look beyond them for champions. They're a shit team in terms of the overall quality of their football compared to say City or Arsenal, but they have a style of play that's very difficult to combat. First and foremost, they're a massive team. De Gea 6' 4, Shaw 6' 1, Valencia 6' 2, Bailly 6' 2, Smalling 6' 5, Carrick 6' 2, Pogba 6' 4, Bog brush 6' 4, Big nose 6' 4, even Rashford and Martial are 6' 0. That is unprecedented in the history of English football. Not even Wimbledon circa 88 come close. It allows them the luxury of a game plan predicated on little more than lumping in cross after cross after cross in the direction of Big nose and Bog brush, knowing that it takes 2 men to mark either of them, and with defensive bodies then tied up in the penalty area it is almost impossible for the opposition to break out. The pressure then becomes relentless as it did today. They aren't a particularly good side, as I said, but they have just sufficient creativity in the shape of Mata, Rashford and Martial, and pace from Martial, Rashford and Valencia, which when allied to that unbelievable physicality, allows them to play effectively on the counter against better footballing sides, whilst grinding teams down at the other end of the table via an aerial bombardment from the flanks. I genuinely don't see them losing more than 4 or 5 games all season. A shame for football, but there you go
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Exeter Blue I am here said:
The first half of that answer is irrelevant. The second though is rooted in the truth that based on the first 3 games of the season we are the nation's best bet for stopping them
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You also say they can play effectively on the counter against better teams, what games is that based on?

And the first half of my answer was just as relevant as your pessimism.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
They are, but unfortunately I find it difficult to look beyond them for champions. They're a shit team in terms of the overall quality of their football compared to say City or Arsenal, but they have a style of play that's very difficult to combat. First and foremost, they're a massive team. De Gea 6' 4, Shaw 6' 1, Valencia 6' 2, Bailly 6' 2, Smalling 6' 5, Carrick 6' 2, Pogba 6' 4, Bog brush 6' 4, Big nose 6' 4, even Rashford and Martial are 6' 0. That is unprecedented in the history of English football. Not even Wimbledon circa 88 come close. It allows them the luxury of a game plan predicated on little more than lumping in cross after cross after cross in the direction of Big nose and Bog brush, knowing that it takes 2 men to mark either of them, and with defensive bodies then tied up in the penalty area it is almost impossible for the opposition to break out. The pressure then becomes relentless as it did today. They aren't a particularly good side, as I said, but they have just sufficient creativity in the shape of Mata, Rashford and Martial, and pace from Martial, Rashford and Valencia, which when allied to that unbelievable physicality, allows them to play effectively on the counter against better footballing sides, whilst grinding teams down at the other end of the table via an aerial bombardment from the flanks. I genuinely don't see them losing more than 4 or 5 games all season. A shame for football, but there you go
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Exeter Blue I am here said:
If it helps, I've been delighted by the way we've started the season, and I think we're the one team that can stop the fuckers!
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PEG is a front runner, his sides don't come from behind to win titles. We need to keep our noses in front to apply pressure, the truth is he can't handle it and makes rash decisions when under pressure.
 
All their new signings looked very average. Disgusted that they scored but IMO this shows more teams out there that they can be stopped.
 
Offensively they are good but from what I saw Hull easily passed through them until the final third. They are a very static side without the ball and it is easy to find the lines between them. They are a very big powerful unit who play to their strengths i.e. balls into the box from wide positions. I thought Ibrahimovic was very static and their is no forward press from the frontline. I think the likes of us Arsenal and liverpool and anyone intact who moves the ball quickly will have success against them.
 
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You also say they can play effectively on the counter against better teams, what games is that based on?

And the first half of my answer was just as relevant as your pessimism.
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My point is that it doesn't matter a shit whether the rags play like an 80's team or not, merely whether the rest of the league can cope with that way of playing. Thus far this season (including the Charity Shield), 4 out of 4 teams haven't been able to. Based largely on the Taggart era, but also last season under Van Gaal, they've always managed to bully teams like Arsenal and the Dippers to defeat, and I don't see that changing. With the exception of the absence of a dynamic Keane type presence in the engine room, I'd say the current rags team is the closest in physicality and style to when Whiskey Nose was in charge.
They haven't had any real tests yet, but then neither have we. Like I said in my last post though I think we are the one team that can stop them, so I'm not convinced the pessimism tag fits......although I have got previous ;-)
 
Fallingbostel Blue said:
Offensively they are good but from what I saw Hull easily passed through them until the final third. They are a very static side without the ball and it is easy to find the lines between them. They are a very big powerful unit who play to their strengths i.e. balls into the box from wide positions. I thought Ibrahimovic was very static and their is no forward press from the frontline. I think the likes of us Arsenal and liverpool and anyone intact who moves the ball quickly will have success against them.
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I don't think they'll set up like that against the better footballing teams though. Maureen will do what he always does in such contests and park the bus
 
Their style, going back even to the seventies hasn't changed one bit, cross the ball in relentlessly and wait for the lucky rebound etc. Complete dogshit to watch. Really pissed off with Hull though, got exactly what they deserved which was fuck all.
 
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