United 2016/17

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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
From about 1992 onwards, the rest is a bit vague.
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The mists start to conveniently clear between 1958 and 1968, but otherwise you are correct. It's comical that people who will doubtless point to united's history as their reason for starting to support them, know so little, short of what they're spoon fed by the club. It's also a little pathetic how much wilful blindness they assume on the subject of history, when it paints their club in a bad light - which is a sign of extreme mental weakness.

At least we accept that our club has frequently been ran in a corrupt, incompetent and dishonest fashion for a significant part of its history, despite the conspicuous absence of rancid meat from the equation.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The mists start to conveniently clear between 1958 and 1968, but otherwise you are correct. It's comical that people who will doubtless point to united's history as their reason for starting to support them, know so little, short of what they're spoon fed by the club. It's also a little pathetic how much wilful blindness they assume on the subject of history, when it paints their club in a bad light - which is a sign of extreme mental weakness.

At least we accept that our club has frequently been ran in a corrupt, incompetent and dishonest fashion for a significant part of its history, despite the conspicuous absence of rancid meat from the equation.
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Not forgetting the 20 odd year gap when they didn't win the league which they hammer the scousers for. They turned the tide by floating on the stock exchange and purchased a new team.

Don't let the romantic myth get in the way of the facts.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Not forgetting the 20 odd year gap when they didn't win the league which they hammer the scousers for. They turned the tide by floating on the stock exchange and purchased a new team.

Don't let the romantic myth get in the way of the facts.
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It wasn't just the float that gave them the edge, it was the way they had previously conspired with Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs in particular to systematically rewrite various rules on football finances in their favour, some of which had stood for a century. This was done with the express intent of giving them a clear advantage. If that isn't financial doping, I don't know what is, and it gave Ferguson, in conjunction with the globalisation of the English game, the platform to build what you see today.
 
I think i'm done with trying to have a decent conversation with United fans. I've tried. But they are becoming worse and worse. This few years of mediocrity has hit them hard, and they just tend to shout or talk over anything you say.

Their decline into becoming what they once mocked has been phenomenal. A bunch of history bores, bullies and hypocrites. I'm still not sure whether they believe what they spout after years of brainwashing, or they are having a hard time dealing with what is happening...

At least blues can take criticism and laugh at our failings (we've had enough practice over the years).
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It wasn't just the float that gave them the edge, it was the way they had previously conspired with Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs in particular to systematically rewrite various rules on football finances in their favour, some of which had stood for a century. This was done with the express intent of giving them a clear advantage. If that isn't financial doping, I don't know what is, and it gave Ferguson, in conjunction with the globalisation of the English game, the platform to build what you see today.
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I'm sure Sky owning 10% of the club did a fair amount for their profile in the early days as Sky wanted to buy them.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I'm sure Sky owning 10% of the club did a fair amount for their profile in the early days as Sky wanted to buy them.
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That was another factor too. Sky realised their rising marketability soon enough. United would have been around the front of the queue in any event, of course. It is undeniable that for decades, prior to the formation of the Premier League, they were a hugely supported club, but any suggestion that their subsequent dominance arose from entirely equitable circumstances is a lie. They shaped the landscape from which they benefitted, as ultimately, so did we, it's right to say.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That was another factor too. Sky realised their rising marketability soon enough. United would have been around the front of the queue in any event, of course. It is undeniable that for decades, prior to the formation of the Premier League, they were a hugely supported club, but any suggestion that their subsequent dominance arose from entirely equitable circumstances is a lie. They shaped the landscape from which they benefitted, as ultimately, so did we, it's right to say.
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It gets me that rags I speak to don't see the irony that the Premier league they shaped created us and the ADUG business model. The rags rested on their laurels convinced they would be the dominate brand in England. Chelsea, then us, saw that wouldn't happen. Since our takeover the club and their fans have acted like it's their ball and they will take it home unless they get what they want.
 
Looks like another City/United title race, with perhaps a Chelsea dark horse? I dunno.

Interesting stuff...

Derby will be a particularly fiery one! Can't wait. It's on Sky right?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
They know so little of their own club's history, it's pitiful.
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Not a pot to piss in and with Bacon face threatening to leave because there were no transfer funds, Edwards gambled, borrowed money hoping that Ferguson could raise the profile of United and make them more sellable
So off rasher chops went, buying Neil Webb, Pallister, Danny Wallace etc with money that wasn't theirs, and luckily for the rag twats they got good just as the Prem went global
 
Funny now though as they bring up likkle City at every opportunity to try and stay relevant by continually riding on OUR coat tails. My oh my, you irrelevant cunts have certainly smack of desperation and still smell of rancid meat. Cunts!
 
LFC-Fans said:
Looks like another City/United title race, with perhaps a Chelsea dark horse? I dunno.

Interesting stuff...

Derby will be a particularly fiery one! Can't wait. It's on Sky right?
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Another ? 5th 4th 7th, been a while since they even turned up mate :)
 
I recently got a Bassett Hound and he sleeps in a basket outside our bedroom door. He is still a pup so we put newspaper down by the basket I case he gets taken short in the night. The wife put down a few sheets last night and when I got up this morning I was delighted to see he had defacated on a picture of the big nosed Swedish tosser, the dog is traumatized as he has never been praised for shitting in the house before. Does anyone have any good advice?
 
Danish Blue said:
I recently got a Bassett Hound and he sleeps in a basket outside our bedroom door. He is still a pup so we put newspaper down by the basket I case he gets taken short in the night. The wife put down a few sheets last night and when I got up this morning I was delighted to see he had defacated on a picture of the big nosed Swedish tosser, the dog is traumatized as he has never been praised for shitting in the house before. Does anyone have any good advice?
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That is great, i suggest a steak dinner for the star man.
 
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