United 2016/17

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Anyone remember when we went out of the semi final of the league cup to the rags when Owen scored in the 6th minute of injury time, we had a post match analysis from Sky justifying the time added on with 30 seconds for every sub, time added on for goal celebrations and the like which miraculously equated to the time added on. Not seen time added on in the same way since when we continually have six subs and only 3 minutes of time added on.
 
I've no reason to believe the info you have isn't correct, however if we had this "silver bullet" why has nothing changed?
It did in 2012 but this season has been far more blatant. I'm happy to leave it to the club but when you have the head of the PL saying his brand needs a strong Manchester United and one of their directors is so deeply embedded within the FA. UEFA & even FIFA then there's not a great deal you can really do is there? But in 2012 we won two games 6-1 away from home and both were meant to involve a stitch-up. Yet we were so good that it just wasn't possible.
 
I agree the ref's decision was poor for the first goal but so was Luis' positioning to give Rashfoot a clear run on goal. Drop off a couple of yards and it's a much more difficult chance.
Do you really think on the balance of play the Rags deserved to lose?

To be honest, I don't know why Luis didn't just give Rashford a nudge and get himself a free-kick......
 
I agree the ref's decision was poor for the first goal but so was Luis' positioning to give Rashfoot a clear run on goal. Drop off a couple of yards and it's a much more difficult chance.
Do you really think on the balance of play the Rags deserved to lose?

Not at all. But when a game plan is foiled by wrong decisions, it can change the game.
Not saying yesterday's game would've been different as Chelsea's 2 man team were shite.
Hazard totally ineffectual, even when he did escape Herrera and Costa looked more bothered
about having a running battle with that other twat Rojo.
 
united game yesterday shown what all manchester city fans and players and manager are mad about this season

the ref control the game in united favour everything went the way for the home team and how did rolo not pick up a red card for kicking Costa after he went in hard on Bailly the hand ball is clear and control the ball in his favour so got to be given but just watching the ref he just about won the game for united and as for crowding the ref will the FA bring them to answer and control the players shocking. its from throw inns to dead balls to fouls and letting them go and for Herrera what does he have to do to get a red card and the yellow save any after match video replays in saying the ref seen it

now back to city vs chelsea at home and how the ref control the game and made chelsea look the better team but the foul on Aguero by David Luiz last man red card coming out of the pocket only for somebody in the ear of the ref and next thing play on. that not only change the game but the season. red card chelsea down to 10 men city 1.0 up chelsea miss Luiz for 3 games city don't lose aguero for 4 games Fernandinho for 3 games city get the 3 points its all there to see we was done over by the ref

united have to get top 4 and champions league football uefa and the tv people need them to sell the tv rights for mega bucks
you know united get top 4 or win the europa league
 
It did in 2012 but this season has been far more blatant. I'm happy to leave it to the club but when you have the head of the PL saying his brand needs a strong Manchester United and one of their directors is so deeply embedded within the FA. UEFA & even FIFA then there's not a great deal you can really do is there? But in 2012 we won two games 6-1 away from home and both were meant to involve a stitch-up. Yet we were so good that it just wasn't possible.

People have unconscious bias and i'm sure that comes into play with a lot referees some it's clearly more conscious.

If we had any clear evidence of collusion it would have been exposed or maybe we're complicit as well and didn't want to damage the "brand"?
 
Anyone remember when we went out of the semi final of the league cup to the rags when Owen scored in the 6th minute of injury time, we had a post match analysis from Sky justifying the time added on with 30 seconds for every sub, time added on for goal celebrations and the like which miraculously equated to the time added on. Not seen time added on in the same way since when we continually have six subs and only 3 minutes of time added on.
Would you like to explain why a League Cup semi-final was played on a Sunday? Or are you getting confused?
I won't argue with your comments about a bent bit of timekeeping though.
 
People have unconscious bias and i'm sure that comes into play with a lot referees some it's clearly more conscious.

If we had any clear evidence of collusion it would have been exposed or maybe we're complicit as well and didn't want to damage the "brand"?
It will come out at some point I'm sure because a certain law enforcement agency is gathering evidence I believe but you're right about not damaging the brand. Why would we want to do that when we were on the verge of our first league title for 44 years?
 
The league was a whole lot weaker in 11/12 and we were the financial powerhouse at that time. the rags were beyond dogsh*t yet at one point we had effectively lost the league. Thankfully we scored with zero time left otherwise I'm confident the ref would have gone to many lengths to even it up. We were by far and away the best side and yet we win it on goal difference. I'm sure there were massive recriminations in the corridors of power that year, reviews on procedure and mitigation plans put in place.

In 13/14 Liverpool had equally effectively been awarded the league by the media most blues had written it off due to the points deficit and but for Gerrards slip would we have won it? That was meant to be Liverpools year..,we were again the best side that year 102 goals +65 goal difference and yet we sneaked the league by two points after being massively behind. Is that really your strong case for the defence?

I have to question with FFP, rags in positions of power in most of the footballing authorities, the litany of offside goals for the rags, the lack of sendings off in the face of horrific challenges, the clear handballs leading to goals, the strange injuries to key players (one of which Chelsea won't explain!?) in the biggest match of Chelsea's season, the woefully below par performance from Chelsea, the Appointment of a rag to referee our big games, the strange disallowing of an onside goal for Southampton against the rags in a cup final, ffs, I could go on and on. As for Leicester f*ckin City winning the league.. you really think they would have done it without the 11 penalties they were awarded? I was brought up not to believe in fairytales. What exactly would need to happen for you to think anything is remiss? Perhaps clattenburg kicking it in the goal himself and awarding the goal to the rags and the media saying it was a legitimate goal because Clattenburg 'hadnt seen it'

As for your Everton fan mate, he clearly doesn't watch enough of our games and believes the b*llocks the media peddle like Pegs continual mention of Bravo on Rooney.

Why don't I walk away!? Because that's exactly what the b*stards want us to do and because I love this f*cking club, it's part of my life and despite it all, the sight of our players shoving their bias back down their throats gives me boundless joy. We will win the league inspite of them and one day they will be found out and we will get the game back to what it used to be a sport where the best team win.

Great post

To be honest, I don't know why Luis didn't just give Rashford a nudge and get himself a free-kick......

And even better
 
It did in 2012 but this season has been far more blatant. I'm happy to leave it to the club but when you have the head of the PL saying his brand needs a strong Manchester United and one of their directors is so deeply embedded within the FA. UEFA & even FIFA then there's not a great deal you can really do is there? But in 2012 we won two games 6-1 away from home and both were meant to involve a stitch-up. Yet we were so good that it just wasn't possible.

In each of those games we wer denied clear penalties. One where Anderson smashed into Richard's and in the Norwich game we had a player booked for diving(Aguero or Tevez) when it was a clear foul
 
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