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Play a load of kids when top 4 is at stake?

So we do that today and get bummed 4-0. Imagine the pelters Pep would get?
Against one of the worst teams in the league yea. The problem has not been the youngsters this season. It has been injuries and midfield that is so unbalanced. We should got rid Silva, not taken Gundo back and let Walker mess us around. The one thing Slur Alex Ferguson did well is got rid of players at the right time until he left. Real have been good at this as well.

Look at what happened to Barca when they got rid of Gundo and started playing youth. Look at PSG when they started playing a young energetic team. Look at red scouse what happened when they played and old and slow midfield a few years back.

The planning has been terrible over last few seasons.
 
Just a god awful game to watch. Utd look like a side near the bottom of the league. We didn't look any different. Shows how shit the Premier league is this year that this version of us is still anywhere near the champs lge places.
 
Disagree. Omar is better than Jesus and Alvarez who both won lots with us.
But it's all about opinions
Far to soon to say with any certainty… Alvarez (who scored yet again this weekend) was treated pretty shabbily and he left because of it. If Marmoush is as good/better let’s hope we don't let the same thing happen again!!
 
Reading elements of this thread when did we become so raggish and entitled. Pep is suddenly a Steve McLaren level coach… FFS. I think Pep has made mistakes but he’s earned the right to oversee a rebuild and we are lucky to have him. We need to keep things in perspective and show some LOYALTY.
Which is exactly what Pep has to stop showing
 
What makes you believe he is better than Alvarez?

Alvarez is a top class striker and has proved that both here and now at his new club....Marmoush looks good but I dont think he is as good as Alvarez....yet...and Alvarez is younger

If we hadnt have had Erling Id have Alvarez over a lot of other strikers our there...you have to remember Alvarez played out of position quite often for us....
Tend to agree, and he's looked very good at Athletico.

Marmoush isn't a central striker, he's found form at 25 in a two, then he moves to us and he's not really got an obvious position.

I mean, he's the least of our worries I suppose.
 
a kid who has never played in the league and wasnt even a regular for River plate.....yeah ok

This Echeverri shit needs to stop... exciting player he might be but he clearly aint ready
Who thought Morgan Rogers was ready to be a quality PL starter until Emery gave him his chance ? How does anyone know until you pitch them in and see if they sink or swim ? I'm sure Echeverri would give us something different.
 
Depressing afternoon

Painful seeing how far KDB, Gundo and Bernardo have fallen .. and watching Foden wondering WTF has happened to him

I would have took a point before the game but the performance was just demoralising. The rags just as bad. Our team of 3 or 4 years ago would have won 5-0 today, they were that bad

Pep has got his work cut out in the summer and things have got so bad I doubt one summer will be enough to sort it
 
I don't think the problem is the players as such - we know most of them are good players. However, the midfield have no legs at all. Bernardo, Kovacic, KdB and Gundogan - I can't think of a slower midfield in any other team in the PL, or even in any top European league.
its literally is the players then!
Surely the most obvious thing is that you simply cannot play all these players unless you surround them with runners and pace. We don't do that either. The drop off with Foden is something else. He's gone from being one of the best in the world to frankly a Championship level player and we all know he's far better than what he's doing. There's just something that is rotten across the whole squad - and I think it's an order. I cannot honestly think of any player who's played at anywhere near the level they can do this season.

We used to press hard but now we don't. We don't run and towards the end of the game KdB didn't even try to win the ball back. If he's now that unfit he can't do it, why is he playing in these games with players who are just as slow and unfit? Only Pep can answer that one. To my mind, the team is under an order to save energy at any cost.
KDB is finished - what exactly are we saving energy for? We are in a fight for top 5 - that has to be priority number one
I am honestly not sure on the rules about squads and the like but honestly, if you are a right back at City and Nunes is picked ahead of you, find another club as he is poor at best. If Gundogan is better than you in midfield, move on as you're not good enough.
agreed so again it is the quality of the players that is the issue
So, to answer your question I don't think it's just about picking different players, it's a tactical and attitude thing. There's absolutely no way that so many of these players can go from world class to this standard in less than a year.
Its not an attitude thing.....the players are finished....KDB and Gundo in particular...Kova aint that level and never has been, and Bernardo has ran himself into the ground

The only one where it could be suggested its a mental thing is Foden....there are clearly issues going on for him - the rest of that midfield is absolutely finished.


Out of the whole squad of central midfielders the only 3 that should be anywhere near that team next year are Rodri, Gonzales and Foden......that is it

OUt the door should be:

KDB, Gundo, Kova and Grealish for starters....Bernardo as well probably

and if we are looking at our wide midfield players....

Doku is a squad player at best
Sav has a lot of improvements to make before he can be considered good enough to play in a title and champions league chasing team

compare them two to prime Sane and Sterling.....neither are even close as both Sterling and Sane were game changers ...neither of those two are at present

Marmoush - well he looks good but is a he a game changer? I think he will be a very good player for us but is he world class.......not so sure.
 
We were minus Stones, Rodri and Haaland and KDB and Gundogan are 33, 34. What do you want from Pep? Magic?

It was a dire game. What concerns me is that Forest will likely play a similar set-up in the FA Cup semi-final and we will need to find a way to break them down.
I’d like Pep/the club to have realised Stones wasnt reliable 12 months ago, to have a capable back up to Rodri in situ. Not let Alvarez go with no back up in place at the start of the season. And not to be reliant on 33 and 34 year olds in a high press team. I’d add Walker to that aswell.

It’s basic stuff to be honest, plenty of my pals were saying all of this in the summer. We were worried in our whatsapp groups, so if we saw the writing on the wall how did the club not know?

Huge changes required, were not fixing all of that in 1 window thats for sure!!
 
Reading elements of this thread when did we become so raggish and entitled. Pep is suddenly a Steve McLaren level coach… FFS. I think Pep has made mistakes but he’s earned the right to oversee a rebuild and we are lucky to have him. We need to keep things in perspective and show some LOYALTY.
Why?
Hes repeated mistakes all season and lets face it , the signs were there last season.

What did you think when you saw the geriatric 4 in midfield?

Honestly, nobody is owed anything in football
 
Who thought Morgan Rogers was ready to be a quality PL starter until Emery gave him his chance ? How does anyone know until you pitch them in and see if they sink or swim ? I'm sure Echeverri would give us something different.
Morgan Rogers said himself that when he was at city he wasnt ready
 
Questions for Pep
1) Why did you not play Nico?
2) Why did you not play Khusinov?
3) Was it wise to play Gundo 3 games in a row?
4) The Uncs were sticking the place out why didn’t you see that and make changes?
5) Did it make sense to take Nico O off who was having a good game?
6) Why put Rico at LB totally out of position?
Could it be Pep moved back to Spain with his wife 6 months ago and we now have his website designer twin brother Miguel?
 

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