Completely ignoring the point of my post? Did you reply to the wrong one? The high line tactic wasn't changed - that's the issue.It was 0-0 when we made the changes.
A lot of you are over-thinking it as usual so I say again, we have an injury hit squad, we've played 6 in 16 days, all of which were tough matches bar the Exeter one and it's obvious (or should be) that were going to be faded, we're going to start to feel the pressure of the schedule. If this has been a level playing field i could understand it but it wasn't, yet until yesterday we still managed to keep the unbeaten run going.
They're behaving like this was their cup final, be effectively it was, but as usual after any bad result most in here are behaving like it was our cup final too. It's one match, show them it didn't matter, they're still light years behind us and their season is all but over, this is all they have left to play for. Get over it and move on.
In fairness we don’t expect another Sergio or Yaya or KDB but we also don’t expect the constant square pegs in round holes. I mean no recognised full backs for over a season, a midfield with all the savagery of a cuddly teddy bear. We expect more than that.That's EXACTLY what it is - I've just posted in my last entry, "We accept we don't have the quality of players that we had in the best years so why is everybody expecting the same results?"
He’s an impact sub to run at tired defenders, others will need to do the spade work, yesterday he did nothing, he doesn’t understand midfield. Btw he’s on £300k per week, outside of Saudi no one will pay his wages. Hes quickly becoming Jack Grealish mk 2.We may sell Foden only if he isn't good enough to be a regular starter *and* demands a huge salary or a guaranteed starting place. If his demands are not over the top (he comes across as a humble guy), he is highly likely to stay even if he is a squad player.
By my lights, Foden is a forward at heart. He is very good on the ball, which seems to make him a potential top midfielder, but he lacks some things to be the new David/Gundo or our Pedri. He's better at scoring goals than all of them, but doesn't get midfield play like them.
In fairness we don’t expect another Sergio or Yaya or KDB but we also don’t expect the constant square pegs in round holes. I mean no recognised full backs for over a season, a midfield with all the savagery of a cuddly teddy bear. We expect more than that.
With 5 subs now allowed the manager should be able to bring on 'specialists' to manage each phase of the game. What we seem to lack is 'specialists' who are capable of 'getting us a point' or 'protecting a lead' when we are not dominant. Yesterday, we were never going to score in a month of Sundays but could quite easily have gotten a point by locking the game down. We lacked those options on the bench which is probably down to squad depth and balance. Pep seems to favour a small squad, which works if only in one competition or if injuries are non existent but not for our current situation. It is also bizarre that the three centre backs who were out on loan are all fit and playing Akanji, Reiss and Alleyne and the ones here mostly crocked.Looking at the balance of players in the squad I find it odd that that we sign two mid-field players, Cherki and Reijnders who are both lacking in pace and defensive ability, I wonder what the spec was for recruitment in those areas. One certainly has creative ability but both are lacking in key areas of the modern game
Completely ignoring the point of my post? Did you reply to the wrong one? The high line tactic wasn't changed - that's the issue.
I don't care how United are behaving, I certainly didn't mention it.
Nothing in yours explains the high line, does it? Most of last season we were living on a knife-edge, knowing that as soon as we lost the ball it was in the lap of the gods what happened next.
The tactics haven't 'got over it' and they certainly haven't 'moved on'.
You may be under-thinking it. It's pretty basic.
When is a side manged by Pep ever going to be in just one competition? He has been managing in this country to realise given his experience with KdB and Rodri that injuries are just part of the modern game. Whilst he has to carry the can for the squad size issue I'm not sure where the failure to recruit another Fernandinho lies.With 5 subs now allowed the manager should be able to bring on 'specialists' to manage each phase of the game. What we seem to lack is 'specialists' who are capable of 'getting us a point' or 'protecting a lead' when we are not dominant. Yesterday, we were never going to score in a month of Sundays but could quite easily have gotten a point by locking the game down. We lacked those options on the bench which is probably down to squad depth and balance. Pep seems to favour a small squad, which works if only in one competition or if injuries are non existent but not for our current situation. It is also bizarre that the three centre backs who were out on loan are all fit and playing Akanji, Reiss and Alleyne and the ones here mostly crocked.
If you asked the fans before the match then i agree they expected to get hammered.We dont disagree on virtually anything ! I would still say though that having not finished above us since 2014 and having been knocked out of all comps at this early stage it is most def. their cup final. If you asked them b4 the match about the result they expected to get hammered.
Proper City fans, are you saying that I and many others aren’t proper City fans because they have a different view to you?Bottom line... It was a fucking Manchester derby and our ridiculously overpaid manager and players (other than Donnarumma and Khusanov), collectively shat their pants.
Totally unacceptable. An insult to all proper City fans.
Did you have a pre match prediction or see that performance coming, because a lot of what you say were present before ko.Proper City fans, are you saying that I and many others aren’t proper City fans because they have a different view to you?
Looking at your posts on here, it’s clear that you want Pep out and consider our current situation with games and players as no consequence for how a game pans out. With that attitude, we should be winning every single game we play.
So, as a not so proper City fan, I do take things into account when going into a game. Like how many games have been played, what injuries both have and who to call on in their absence, form, etc, which id assume all would do. So, prior to the game, one is looking at what team we can field and what tactics could be played, which includes injuries, fatigue, etc. we knew we’d be playing a relatively inexperienced back so had concerns, but had seen us hold our own with players like Nunes and guiding them. That changes prior to the game and you can see why he included Ake instead of Nico, as 4 youngsters in there could’ve caused severe damage.
Then there’s the inclusion of Rodri, who we’ve been trying to bring back slowly but have no option because this years recognised CM is injured, and we can’t even use the likes of Stone because, he I injured. So we’re now going into a game that is missing 3 out of 4 of its recognised back 4 as well as the CM. That was huge going into the game.
Now, let’s look at United, a team that has played 7 less games this season and 1 game less than us over the last 6, including an extra 2 days rest of that period and a full week off while we were playing Newcastle for the chance of a cup final. They also had a full team to choose from while we had a third of incapacitated due to injury. So, again, this is huge going into a game.
As for the game itself, United played exactly as I expected, condensed in their third with longballs and pace on the break. It worked for them to some extent in the first half but good marshalling in the offside trap and our keeper did well to keep them out. However, what we did see was patterns that showed the naivety all over the pitch, thinking we could push up so high without understanding the danger. Pep tried to change that at half-time bringing Nico on, hoping for better stability but most could see that it was just moving the deck chairs.
And then we get to the goal where we see a poorly executed freekick end up in the back of our net. It was exactly how most would have envisaged, a fast break from a low bloc, leaving our young defenders scrambling back against very experienced PL/international players. From then on, we’ll, we all know the result.
Sorry for a long post, but when I see something so simplistic, without taken individual circumstances into account, then I have to ask why this is, has the person not seen what Pep has done in the past, and why that person no longer believes Pep can do it again? And, in this case, it looks like you believe the players can’t do it either.
Just to finish, I think you’ll probably need to hide behind the couch Over the coming months, as these games are coming thick and fast, and with continued injuries and fatigue, it may just get that little bit worse.
Yes - but that tactic suited the personnel, then.Oh the high line we’ve had soft 5/6 years that won us the treble four in a row! Knee jerk reaction here never taking context or previous seasons when we won leagues trebles! We building a team now and it will take more time that 1 season..
The Don saved us from decades of taunts from those pricks.Still can’t believe that shit show yesterday. Can only imagine it’s how they felt after the 6-1. We were that bad yesterday it could have been worse than the 6-1. We’ve dined out on that for years and thought it would last forever! That game will be remembered in the history books as 2-0 but wow that could have been a lot lot worse! We were lucky in the end thanks to our keeper who had the game of his life thank fuck!
Proper City fans, are you saying that I and many others aren’t proper City fans because they have a different view to you?
Looking at your posts on here, it’s clear that you want Pep out and consider our current situation with games and players as no consequence for how a game pans out. With that attitude, we should be winning every single game we play.
So, as a not so proper City fan, I do take things into account when going into a game. Like how many games have been played, what injuries both have and who to call on in their absence, form, etc, which id assume all would do. So, prior to the game, one is looking at what team we can field and what tactics could be played, which includes injuries, fatigue, etc. we knew we’d be playing a relatively inexperienced back so had concerns, but had seen us hold our own with players like Nunes and guiding them. That changes prior to the game and you can see why he included Ake instead of Nico, as 4 youngsters in there could’ve caused severe damage.
Then there’s the inclusion of Rodri, who we’ve been trying to bring back slowly but have no option because this years recognised CM is injured, and we can’t even use the likes of Stone because, he I injured. So we’re now going into a game that is missing 3 out of 4 of its recognised back 4 as well as the CM. That was huge going into the game.
Now, let’s look at United, a team that has played 7 less games this season and 1 game less than us over the last 6, including an extra 2 days rest of that period and a full week off while we were playing Newcastle for the chance of a cup final. They also had a full team to choose from while we had a third of incapacitated due to injury. So, again, this is huge going into a game.
As for the game itself, United played exactly as I expected, condensed in their third with longballs and pace on the break. It worked for them to some extent in the first half but good marshalling in the offside trap and our keeper did well to keep them out. However, what we did see was patterns that showed the naivety all over the pitch, thinking we could push up so high without understanding the danger. Pep tried to change that at half-time bringing Nico on, hoping for better stability but most could see that it was just moving the deck chairs.
And then we get to the goal where we see a poorly executed freekick end up in the back of our net. It was exactly how most would have envisaged, a fast break from a low bloc, leaving our young defenders scrambling back against very experienced PL/international players. From then on, we’ll, we all know the result.
Sorry for a long post, but when I see something so simplistic, without taken individual circumstances into account, then I have to ask why this is, has the person not seen what Pep has done in the past, and why that person no longer believes Pep can do it again? And, in this case, it looks like you believe the players can’t do it either.
Just to finish, I think you’ll probably need to hide behind the couch Over the coming months, as these games are coming thick and fast, and with continued injuries and fatigue, it may just get that little bit worse.
It was a back to the eighties keep the score down derby, shameful for a club of our size and stature these days. Pep’s tactics/team selection signed our death warrantI'll keep it simple for you.
The team shat the bed in a derby. Apart from a couple, the players were terrible in terms of effort and attitude, and Pep did absolutely nothing to rectify/remedy the situation.
It's the Manchester derby. If they can't get up for that, they shouldn't be playing for City.
Every City fan should be pissed off if / when we lose to that pile of red shite.
I understand that you are pissed off with yesterday’s performance, but you have gone too far with the criticism imo.I'll keep it simple for you.
The team shat the bed in a derby. Apart from a couple, the players were terrible in terms of effort and attitude, and Pep did absolutely nothing to rectify/remedy the situation.
It's the Manchester derby. If they can't get up for that, they shouldn't be playing for City.
Every City fan should be pissed off if / when we lose to that pile of red shite.