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"doesn't impact the players ability to play the ball"

That's what Walton and his cronies are peddling, of course he fucking does, how is this even a debate? it's not all physical either, his mere presence changes the defenders decision making ability.

if you're saying he's not touched it, you're basically saying he's as good as not there, so take him away from that scenario and you don't see akanji and walker make the same movements they made with him around the ball, they go directly towards the ball, he's therefore making a very clear impact on the opponents ability to play the ball.

Then there's ederson who approaches the ball because Rashford is running clear through on goal and sets himself for his shot, if he's not there and it's just Fernandes behind akanji and walker, ederson isn't anywhere near where he was.

His run has impacted 3 fucking players

"but he's not touched it"
 
argyle said:
...because we were beyond shit 25 years ago doesn't mean we can't criticise now.

Compared to how we were playing, just last year, we are a shadow of ourselves.
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By all means have a view on how we played in a game ... but we are by no means anywhere near being a shit team, in any way shape or form. That was my point.
 
simon23 said:
Read he law here:

  • a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball; if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent's progress (e.g blocks the opponent) the offence should be penalised under Law 12
He doesnt stop or intefere with Ederson moving "towards the ball"...neither does it impact on Edersons ability to play the ball

Where the rule is wrong is that he impacts on decision making....but the rule above seems to only take account for physical actions
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He was clearly attempting to play the ball and makes an obvious action which interferes with impacts on an opponent playing the ball - the latter because Ederson stopped & anticipated a shot from Rashford; Akanji ran towards Rashford's run, rather than a blocking run towards Fernandes.
 
If we had scored that offside goal not a chance in hell it would have stood. They are now cheating in full view, credit to Pep and the team for the last few seasons of success whilst dealing with it, but they have increased it a level and we can’t compete with that.

Remember it’s not good for the PL brand if the same team wins every season.
 
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