United (A) | Post Match Thread

[cookster]

I dont mind it, you think they are mardarses I think they are realists, but that's football we all have different opinions

Realists deal in facts, like 4 titles in 5 seasons.

 

[Goldust]

How that is a goal is unbelievable. Was it me but when foden knew his number was up he started limping, a very strange performance from him. Grealish looked a 100m player in comparison

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Wan-Bissaka took the absolute piss out of us today. Aaron Wan-Bissaka. Not some younger brother, new kid on the block kind of shit. Aaron Wan-Bissaka.

People talk about refereeing decisions but unless he was giving him a fucking piggyback then it doesn't excuse how fucking shite we were.

 

[OB1]

Yeh Cancelo was much better today. Some nice darting runs. One or two really sloppy passes as well mind, but Kev, Riyad, Bernie were all equally culpable in that regard. I don’t know if additional pace is the answer (although as always, I lament the dearth of it in our squad), but we’ve got to try and find some route to goal that doesn’t involve going backwards and sideways for the whole of the remainder of the season.

Some of the lack of precision in our passing is frustrating.

Pace has its place but technique and football intelligence remain paramount.

It's a big problem having to deal with so much bus parking and the efforts teams are putting in to deny us space etc. United brought in Fred today to man mark Kev.

I think we have to be quicker to cross the ball, high and low. Haaland needs balls to go and attack.

A genuine left back (i.e. left footed) who can cross the ball from deeper positions as well as the by-line would help. I do think we use inverted wide players a bit too much.

We could try setting up to sit back and play on the break but I'm not more a fan of that approach to the game than Pep is.

Our best weapon remains scoring the first goal early in a game.

It's tough, we are the living embodiment of victims of our own success,

I'd make some radical changes of personnel for next year and spend every last penny we legitmately can getting even more quality into the squad, but that won't happen. I mean three to five signings would do that job.

 

[Scottish Cityzen]

Back to basics for me... I think we should drop Haaland for a few, go back to false 9.

I’d go the opposite mate, I’d tweak the style of our play to be less about possession and control and be about getting into positions where we are getting 6-10 crosses between the 6 yard box and penalty spot every game. We need to take advantage of what we’ve got.

If we give Haaland one half chance per game even he will probably not score.

The above doesn’t require a change of personnel, just a change of tactics and mindset from Pep. We are needing to have a little reinvention and make the best of what we have.

Hopefully the anger from the injustice of today will put a fire in the stomachs of everyone at the club and we see a good reaction in the coming matches.

 

[der bomber28]

Mentioned that earlier in the thread, was watching that game and it was so obvious, the refereeing in this country is a disgrace.

Absolutely shocking mate, hard not to argue that this goes beyond “incompetence”.

 

[Hes the left back remember]

We were always pressing and winning the ball high up the pitch and quickly once opposition had the ball, it seems to have dropped off substantially. May feel like the end of the world but seen a lot worse.
Keep the faith .

 

[Blueboy73]

Okay let’s say we did, it’s 1-1. Now what’s the mentality, angry, that the goal was given against you? If so you go again and win the game. Lack of mentality, you feel sorry for yourself and lose the game. Game management you play for the draw. Not withstanding the decision you have the mentality to play the game out. No leaders and mentality cost us this game.

I take your point but they're human and when you're blatantly cheated by an official who is either incompetent, corrupt or both it will affect you.
Most people would lose focus when put in a situation like that knowing you've basically been royally shafted.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Wan-Bissaka took the absolute piss out of us today. Aaron Wan-Bissaka. Not some younger brother, new kid on the block kind of shit. Aaron Wan-Bissaka.

People talk about refereeing decisions but unless he was giving him a fucking piggyback then it doesn't excuse how fucking shite we were.

5 attempts and one on target against a side with him, Shaw at CB and Fred in midfield is unbelievably shit

 

[come-on-barney]

Some of the lack of precision in our passing is frustrating.

Pace has its place but technique and football intelligence remain paramount.

It's a big problem having to deal with so much bus parking and the efforts teams are putting in to deny us space etc. United brought in Fred today to man mark Kev.

I think we have to be quicker to cross the ball, high and low. Haaland needs balls to go and attack.

A genuine left back (i.e. left footed) who can cross the ball from deeper positions as well as the by-line would help. I do think we use inverted wide players a bit too much.

We could try setting up to sit back and play on the break but I'm not more a fan of that approach to the game than Pep is.

Our best weapon remains scoring the first goal early in a game.

It's tough, we are the living embodiment of victims of our own success,

I'd make some radical changes of personnel for next year and spend every last penny we legitmately can getting even more quality into the squad, but that won't happen. I mean three to five signings would do that job.

I disagree, think pace and power will dominate going forwards.

 

[come-on-barney]

I take your point but they're human and when you're blatantly cheated by an official who is either incompetent, corrupt or both it will affect you.
Most people would lose focus when put in a situation like that knowing you've basically been royally shafted.

That’s where the mentality kicks in. In previous seasons we would have picked ourselves up and gone onto win the game.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

So, if Spurs beat or draw with Arsenal tomorrow, then not a great deal has changed has it, other than the rags being 3 points better off?

 

[Bluearmy]

He is given offside. It was the first offence.

Not necessarily if the officials considered him like they did today “not interfering”. In a weird quirk, if Akanji had got back and in desperation wiped rashford out they would have got the foul and Akanji would have been sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

I know that sounds mad but its in the laws. Just take that level of stupidity in for a moment….

 

[give it to gordon]

I take your point but they're human and when you're blatantly cheated by an official who is either incompetent, corrupt or both it will affect you.
Most people would lose focus when put in a situation like that knowing you've basically been royally shafted.

Was going to say the same

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Not sure you'll see it, but this is NBC's coverage at the end of the derby:

Pigmol said blah blah, well they fucking would the bent cunts

 

[Bluearmy]

Is it not the first offence if the flag is up for offside before the foul.

Not if they consider him not interfering like they did today

 

[Tomblue]

On balance rags deserved it. We were woeful, bar 20 odd minutes before we scored we could barely string two passes together

What a load of nonsense this is.

 

[paulsimpson]

In hindsight all the players should have turned and held their hands up for offside and walked.. as I think it would have been blown there and then as he was so far off and Bruno wasn’t in the picture.

We were actually punished for playing to the whisle. Absolute joke.

Yes and Pep tells our boys to play to the whistle because there's a general expectation that there will be honesty and equity from the ref whoever it is.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Akanji did say that.
When Fishfingers and Rat Face were interviewed and asked whether there was a shout they denied it.
Someone is lying and my money is on the cheating Rag scum.

My money is always on the Rag scum to be cheating.

 

[SebastianBlue]

He was literally blocking Akanji from getting to the ball. Had he not been there Akanji (or Ederson) would have cleared the ball. And he didn’t actually slow down.

It’s just farcical. I don’t know how else to describe it. The more I watch it the more it seems up is down, left is right, and offside is now onside.

This is 1984 levels of live revisionism.