United (A) | Post Match Thread

[chickaroon]

It certainly would have given VAR something to sort out, wouldn't it?

 

[Chi-town blues]

It certainly would have given VAR something to sort out, wouldn't it?

The fact that var and ref were both in agreement says all.

 

[Norbert D]

Still think Akanji has been given a free pass for the second goal and Walker not much better. How was Rashford actually stood on his own on the 6 yard box.

I said yesterday during the game Akanji looked suspect. He’s good on the ball but seems a bit lost at times. We had our three first choice centre backs out. Shit happens.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

According to Phil McNulty on the BBC website, the rags have morphed into 1970s Brazil. Ah well, it was nice whilst it lasted.

 

[SidJames]

Watched the game again this morning......yeah i know i am a sadist.

Not going to go on about that abomination of a goal that was allowed to stand. It changed the game.

Still.......It was evident to me watching that first half again. We were playing well within our selves. The focus being on Ball retention and obsessively keeping possession. Nullifying the Rags threat. Players always passing to the side, and back. Watch Bernado closely he sees Haaland run after a quick pass, zero interest from Bernado backwards goes the pass.

That is not accident. This is the team being sent out by the manager purely to focus on getting to half time 0-0 and go on from there second half. Wasting a full half playing slow, dull, insipid robotic football. It is awful football, cowardly as well. Unbelievably We were playing with fear to contain the Rags.

Many would rather blame the players than the manager.

How are they supposed to to change the game when Pep is obsessed more with retaining possession at all costs ?.Look at the players faces when they make a shit pass,they look terrified, they are playing with anxiety rather than flair.

2 games with virtually zero shots on goal, is both incredible, and criminal, given our talent..

Why even bother playing Haaland if the game plan is to simply grind out first half defensively against a shit Rag side who only threat is Trashford.That was there only threat, and he couldn't even nullify that.

Then we finish the game with a World Cup winning striker Alvarez still sat on the Bench.

It is like Pep sulks, and becomes incapable of thinking logically when it is not going his way. It is not a one off either. Every Champions League campaign ends the same way.

I am worried he is unravelling, and a few players have had enough playing his style.

We need to up our game against Spurs or another defeat is nailed on.

 

[Bobby the blue]

Phil has dropped off a cliff since the World Cup. 4 weeks being 'coached' by Waistcoat will do that to most players.

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with Southgate and everything to do with Phil.

 

[babyape]

If Akanji touched Rashford , ref would’ve given pk and red .

This is the mad thing. If Akanji would have cleaned Rashford out, we would have got a freekick for him being offside.

 

[ShedDweller]

This is the mad thing. If Akanji would have cleaned Rashford out, we would have got a freekick for him being offside.

Nope, they would have been awarded a penalty.
Yes... really...

 

[Corky]

We were robbed, but left ourselves open to it with the one shot on target. Defensively we were opened up too many times to think it wasn't a problem.

 

[chedinho]

Keep hearing this arguement without people actually acknowledging that most teams put 10 behind the ball against us.
Brighton were great yesterday because the Dippers came to attack, not sit back for 90 mins and try the odd counter.

The football is fine, we need more tempo and intensity.

People can’t seem to get their heads round this lol

 

[HolisticJim]

So pissed off with it right now. Cannot fathom what on earth is going on.
You look at Haaland and he isn't getting any service match after match after match and it's just... Deflating.

 

[failsworthblueboy]

Rashford was offside,Fernandes wasn't.

Rashford never touched the ball so the rules don't cover interfering with play in the manner in which you claim.He didn't ACTIVELY obstruct Akanji,who waas 2 yards behind and never getting back,neither did he obstruct Walker or Ederson.

Rashfords presence most definitely affected the decisions of the our players,but seemingly that isn't against the rules and is the reason the officials came to their decision.

And just in case you are confused.....once again,i agree that it is bollocks and the game has gone if that is deemed a legitimate goal.

Sorry mate you are wrong Rashford has impacted on the play and interfered with it even though he didn't touch the ball every defender and Ederson were focused on him and Ederson thought he was going to shoot. He's offside and it's a terrible decision.

 

[Newquayblue]

The fact that var and ref were both in agreement says all.

apparently VAR not involved in the decision because subjective decision (what the Ref thought).

 

[Mariosfireworks]

Most supporter would trust a manager with such a great record.
Suppose entitled mardarses can't handle a drop in form that sees us 2nd and topping our CL group..

Entitled mardarses ha ha, people can see we are poor this season, guardiola does have a good record, but this season he seems to have no answer to our problems

 

[simon23]

So it's offside then as he interfered with play glad we've finally got that through to you.

My opinion is based on that he interfered with the defenders/Edersons decision making.......not physically getting in there way, stopping them tackling etc...which is where the vaguity of how the rules are written come into it...they allow the ref to say he hasnt interfered with play as Rashford hasnt touched the ball or an opponent.

So no. Im still of the same opinion

 

[simon23]

My apologies for the assumption of you being a "rule follower". But in this case you are still wrong. The rule allows for interpretation, yes, but not for a gross lack of adherence...

I agree with you on this.....when i read the rules and watch the goal and if Im reffing that game then I disallow the goal (without bias)...however the rules allow the ref to allow the goal which is what ive said previously.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I agree with you on this.....when i read the rules and watch the goal and if Im reffing that game then I disallow the goal (without bias)...however the rules allow the ref to allow the goal which is what ive said previously.

Stop with the wumming now mate you’re taking liberties.

 

[simon23]

He’s back. Your opinion is allowed. Unlike anybody else’s opinion because they’re not facts. We know. Day fucking two of Simon decides what a fact is. Ffs.

wasnt me that mentioned facts to start

I also said Im closer to the facts (law/rule of the game)....not that i was factually correct but closer to it .....

And i can see both sides as Ive previously said.

Please put me on ignore if you dont want to read anything I put on here....I wont lose sleep over it

 

[simon23]

And you persist.

as do you and others....

Im happy to leave it but Im guessing others wont as someone even brought it into another thread that had zero connection to this

 

[Bluetobits1951]

As Bill Nicholson the Spurs manger of the double winning side once said:-

"If he's not interfering with play what's he doing on the pitch"?