United thread 2012/13 (inc merged IPO thread)

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Prestwich_Blue said:
Just a bit busy in work this morning (don't they realise I have better things to do?) but have quickly seen that they are reporting revenues are 5% down on last year at around £315m and operating expenses are up by the same percentage, which would put them around £280m. That's £35m operating profit compared to £59m in 2011 (before player transfer profit were taken into account). So they'll be relying on a tax credit to get them into profit I reckon.

Were they still registered in UK for 2011 returns?
They´ll need to get it in by today - closes 31/7 ;)

I suppose they´ve never heard of such a system in the Caymans though
 
mike channon´s windmill said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just a bit busy in work this morning (don't they realise I have better things to do?) but have quickly seen that they are reporting revenues are 5% down on last year at around £315m and operating expenses are up by the same percentage, which would put them around £280m. That's £35m operating profit compared to £59m in 2011 (before player transfer profit were taken into account). So they'll be relying on a tax credit to get them into profit I reckon.

Were they still registered in UK for 2011 returns?
They´ll need to get it in by today - closes 31/7 ;)

I suppose they´ve never heard of such a system in the Caymans though
Thought your corporation tax return deadline was dependant on your accounting period (to be filed with 12 months of the date your accounts run up to or something) rather than an arbitrary filing date? I know 31st July is the deadline for 2nd payments on accounts for Self Assessment taxpayers but wasn't aware it was also the CT return deadline?
 
PB would there be any implications political or otherwise relating to the GM deal? IIRC they got Chapter 11 didn´t they after being bailed out ,but wouldn´t the US taxpayers have something to say about spunking so much money on a sport most of them don´t give a hoot about?
 
JM Mcr said:
mike channon´s windmill said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just a bit busy in work this morning (don't they realise I have better things to do?) but have quickly seen that they are reporting revenues are 5% down on last year at around £315m and operating expenses are up by the same percentage, which would put them around £280m. That's £35m operating profit compared to £59m in 2011 (before player transfer profit were taken into account). So they'll be relying on a tax credit to get them into profit I reckon.

Were they still registered in UK for 2011 returns?
They´ll need to get it in by today - closes 31/7 ;)

I suppose they´ve never heard of such a system in the Caymans though
Thought your corporation tax return deadline was dependant on your accounting period (to be filed with 12 months of the date your accounts run up to or something) rather than an arbitrary filing date? I know 31st July is the deadline for 2nd payments on accounts for Self Assessment taxpayers but wasn't aware it was also the CT return deadline?

Yes, it's 12 months after the accounting period for the CT return but 9 months for payment of any tax that is due.
 
mike channon´s windmill said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just a bit busy in work this morning (don't they realise I have better things to do?) but have quickly seen that they are reporting revenues are 5% down on last year at around £315m and operating expenses are up by the same percentage, which would put them around £280m. That's £35m operating profit compared to £59m in 2011 (before player transfer profit were taken into account). So they'll be relying on a tax credit to get them into profit I reckon.

Were they still registered in UK for 2011 returns?
They´ll need to get it in by today - closes 31/7 ;)

I suppose they´ve never heard of such a system in the Caymans though
They've filed 2011 accounts some time ago. The football club (which is the main trading company) is registered in the UK so we'll get to see their results as soon as they're filed. What we won't know is what the Glazers are getting up to in the Cayman Islands company.
 
Sky sports news are still reporting this as 10% for sale to reduce debt, no mention of only half of it going that way. Why don't they tell it like it is? If it were City they would be all over it like a rash. Cunts!!!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just a bit busy in work this morning (don't they realise I have better things to do?) but have quickly seen that they are reporting revenues are 5% down on last year at around £315m and operating expenses are up by the same percentage, which would put them around £280m. That's £35m operating profit compared to £59m in 2011 (before player transfer profit were taken into account). So they'll be relying on a tax credit to get them into profit I reckon.
Sorry PB, you know company tax isn't my sphere. Why do they get the tax credit?
 
SWP's back said:
sniff said:
waspish said:
Better off as in paying 75m of the loan back saving 4.2m a year on interest payments! It cost em over 12m to set this all up....

A drop in the ocean if you ask me..

Yeah, but like i said the goal posts have moved since then. When i made that post the original GM deal was being touted and the IPO had not released the revised details.

As it stood this morning, they had a £150m ipo clearing the debt, a reported £50 million shirt deal, plus the new kit deal negotiation to come. Those where great numbers...
Maybe you should have held your Tongue rather than taking the piss out of those "pseudo finance" doom mongers? Perhaps.


Well, just maybe, you should hold your's. This keyboard worrior gobshite act is quite tiresome. You must notice how everytime you log on you have to try and take a pop at someone.

As for the Pseudo finance comment, well tell me where it is wrong ?

None of you know the figures, i reand rammy blue and he has a good grasp of the subject to be fair, but it's all subjective.... that's how you define it. It isnt taking the piss, its being acurate with the language...
 
sniff said:
Well, just maybe, you should hold your's. This keyboard worrior gobshite act is quite tiresome. You must notice how everytime you log on you have to try and take a pop at someone.

As for the Pseudo finance comment, well tell me where it is wrong ?

None of you know the figures, i reand rammy blue and he has a good grasp of the subject to be fair, but it's all subjective.... that's how you define it. It isnt taking the piss, its being acurate with the language...
Tell me how I have been a keyboard warrior here or anywhere else. Everything I say on here I would say to anyone's face so it's nothing to do with being a keyboard anything.

You were the one having a pop at people such as myself and PB (PB who called it fairly well and myself when I rubbished the volatility claims). Define "psuedo finance" then as you meant it and then I shall assess where it is wrong.

And none know what figures? I'm not sure what you mean by "reand rammy blue" so can't comment.
 
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