AntiUnited
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mat said:
with a Frenchmen u never know. hes been cheating on his wife so it wouldn't surprise me.
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with a Frenchmen u never know. hes been cheating on his wife so it wouldn't surprise me.
MSP said:Have you ever seen Daily Mail article about Rags that includes pics from their training without "happy family" moments:
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Then you compare it with pics from Chelsea or City trainings or match days...
This one for example is from Villa match day report, same expressions are usually from training pics too:
You'll find some odd with different stuff of course but I'm following this for some time and it's such a visible contrast.
That's why I only read the OS and official club releases to social media. The agenda is laughably transparent.
Fook me, this guy is going to have United's version of a fatwa on his head!
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Why Manchester United have sold their souls
By: Mick Dennis
Published: Tue, March 5, 2013
That is what the club believes, at any rate.
Even Real Madrid, another global mega-brand who visit Old Trafford tonight, would not make such a startling claim.
But while United have been wooing the world they have lost their soul.
And tonight’s Champions League fixture, although it will be a spectacular gala occasion, should be a warning to English football.
I went to Old Trafford as an away fan on Saturday and it was a dispiriting experience – even before my team were crushed 4-0.
Decades of visiting with the hack pack had inured me to the gradual sea change. But as a spectator I saw how the stadium has become a tourist venue to tick off bucket lists.
Yes, I know it is a cliche that United supporters don’t live in Manchester. But it is also true.
My Friday night hotel, close to the M6, was packed with Londoners wearing new replica United shirts.
Then, in Manchester on Saturday lunch time, my wife and I headed for a hotel near the ground for refreshments, as you do.
Well, as you do if you don’t live near enough to eat and drink at home. This hotel, too, was full of trippers, most of them not speaking English.
On the walk to the stadium, we had to avoid bumping into scores of excited folk from the Asian-Pacific region taking pictures of each other, and every five steps or so we came across someone flogging £5 “match-day scarves”.
Half the flag commemorated the home team and the other was in the colours of the away team.
Why buy one of those if you go every week or, in the case of the away team (Norwich), expect to go to Old Trafford once a season?
Answer: you wouldn’t. They are for people for whom visiting Old Trafford is a once-in-a-life-time experience.
Inside the ground, “supporters” from Berwick, Corby, Belfast and the Lebanon got special mentions on the public address system because it was their first visit. My guess is that, for most, it will be their only visit.
So United’s atmosphere has evaporated. The Stretford End used to be so loud you could not hear yourself think in the Press Box.
But, only when United had secured their 4-0 lead did the Stretford End make a noise loud enough for those of us in the away corner to hear.
By then, a plethora of empty seats showed that a lot of trippers had made early dashes for the airport and motorways.
When my car joined the queues out of the city, nearby vehicles included two hotel shuttle buses, a coach from Nottingham and one from Wales.
Are any of these tourists really supporters?
It depends on your definition of support.
But unless you are a United fan who has had to trudge back to the North-west from, say, London on a miserable November night after watching your team lose, you cannot savour the triumphs, surely?
And that preposterous claim that nearly one in 10 of the world’s population is a United fan, is stretching the definition of “fan” so thinly that it is transparently barmy.
It comes from a survey which polled 54,000 adults in some 39 countries.
The figures were extrapolated to produce numbers for the planet and showed 659million would say they follow United.
Even allowing the bogus logic and flawed statistical analysis of using what someone in Japan says to produce numbers for Vanuatu or Turkmenistan, this figure is bunkum.
Most foreign fans catch glimpses of Giggs and Co on TV. They don’t support them. They are mildly sympathetic to them.
But a lot of people abroad buy United shirts and their interest is sufficient for the club to have commercial partners in 72 countries and for former investment banker Ed Woodward, who has been responsible for the club’s international marketing, to become chief executive when David Gill steps down this season.
Of course, United are not the only English club who have gone international. At Chelsea, there are plenty of foreign tourists. Even Norwich have a “Global Canaries” strategy.
And, come to think of it, I live 130 miles from Norwich and so could not join in when the Yellow Army sang “We support our local team” on Saturday.
But that is why tonight’s game against Real Madrid should warn English football. If we all rush to pursue United as they chase income from everywhere and anywhere, our game will cease to be a celebration of English communities.
Shinji Kagawa, a Japanese who played in Germany, put Norwich to the sword with a United hat-trick.
The contingent of Japanese journalists based permanently in Manchester were delighted. United’s marketeers were thrilled. But I was reminded of an ancient joke.
Tony Hancock, who died in the year when United first won the European Cup, made an episode of his TV comedy series called The Radio Ham. He played an amateur radio enthusiast who twiddled his dials and spoke to people abroad.
One line went: “I’ve got friends all over the world. None in this country. But all over the world.”
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/381833/Why-Manchester-United-have-sold-their-souls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... heir-souls</a>
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Why Manchester United have sold their souls
By: Mick Dennis
Published: Tue, March 5, 2013
That is what the club believes, at any rate.
Even Real Madrid, another global mega-brand who visit Old Trafford tonight, would not make such a startling claim.
But while United have been wooing the world they have lost their soul.
And tonight’s Champions League fixture, although it will be a spectacular gala occasion, should be a warning to English football.
I went to Old Trafford as an away fan on Saturday and it was a dispiriting experience – even before my team were crushed 4-0.
Decades of visiting with the hack pack had inured me to the gradual sea change. But as a spectator I saw how the stadium has become a tourist venue to tick off bucket lists.
Yes, I know it is a cliche that United supporters don’t live in Manchester. But it is also true.
My Friday night hotel, close to the M6, was packed with Londoners wearing new replica United shirts.
Then, in Manchester on Saturday lunch time, my wife and I headed for a hotel near the ground for refreshments, as you do.
Well, as you do if you don’t live near enough to eat and drink at home. This hotel, too, was full of trippers, most of them not speaking English.
On the walk to the stadium, we had to avoid bumping into scores of excited folk from the Asian-Pacific region taking pictures of each other, and every five steps or so we came across someone flogging £5 “match-day scarves”.
Half the flag commemorated the home team and the other was in the colours of the away team.
Why buy one of those if you go every week or, in the case of the away team (Norwich), expect to go to Old Trafford once a season?
Answer: you wouldn’t. They are for people for whom visiting Old Trafford is a once-in-a-life-time experience.
Inside the ground, “supporters” from Berwick, Corby, Belfast and the Lebanon got special mentions on the public address system because it was their first visit. My guess is that, for most, it will be their only visit.
So United’s atmosphere has evaporated. The Stretford End used to be so loud you could not hear yourself think in the Press Box.
But, only when United had secured their 4-0 lead did the Stretford End make a noise loud enough for those of us in the away corner to hear.
By then, a plethora of empty seats showed that a lot of trippers had made early dashes for the airport and motorways.
When my car joined the queues out of the city, nearby vehicles included two hotel shuttle buses, a coach from Nottingham and one from Wales.
Are any of these tourists really supporters?
It depends on your definition of support.
But unless you are a United fan who has had to trudge back to the North-west from, say, London on a miserable November night after watching your team lose, you cannot savour the triumphs, surely?
And that preposterous claim that nearly one in 10 of the world’s population is a United fan, is stretching the definition of “fan” so thinly that it is transparently barmy.
It comes from a survey which polled 54,000 adults in some 39 countries.
The figures were extrapolated to produce numbers for the planet and showed 659million would say they follow United.
Even allowing the bogus logic and flawed statistical analysis of using what someone in Japan says to produce numbers for Vanuatu or Turkmenistan, this figure is bunkum.
Most foreign fans catch glimpses of Giggs and Co on TV. They don’t support them. They are mildly sympathetic to them.
But a lot of people abroad buy United shirts and their interest is sufficient for the club to have commercial partners in 72 countries and for former investment banker Ed Woodward, who has been responsible for the club’s international marketing, to become chief executive when David Gill steps down this season.
Of course, United are not the only English club who have gone international. At Chelsea, there are plenty of foreign tourists. Even Norwich have a “Global Canaries” strategy.
And, come to think of it, I live 130 miles from Norwich and so could not join in when the Yellow Army sang “We support our local team” on Saturday.
But that is why tonight’s game against Real Madrid should warn English football. If we all rush to pursue United as they chase income from everywhere and anywhere, our game will cease to be a celebration of English communities.
Shinji Kagawa, a Japanese who played in Germany, put Norwich to the sword with a United hat-trick.
The contingent of Japanese journalists based permanently in Manchester were delighted. United’s marketeers were thrilled. But I was reminded of an ancient joke.
Tony Hancock, who died in the year when United first won the European Cup, made an episode of his TV comedy series called The Radio Ham. He played an amateur radio enthusiast who twiddled his dials and spoke to people abroad.
One line went: “I’ve got friends all over the world. None in this country. But all over the world.”
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/381833/Why-Manchester-United-have-sold-their-souls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... heir-souls</a>
mcmanus
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From the above article from LoveCity this is my favourite line;
"Inside the ground, “supporters” from Berwick, Corby, Belfast and the Lebanon got special mentions on the public address system because it was their first visit. My guess is that, for most, it will be their only visit."
Fucking roll on.
"Inside the ground, “supporters” from Berwick, Corby, Belfast and the Lebanon got special mentions on the public address system because it was their first visit. My guess is that, for most, it will be their only visit."
Fucking roll on.
Swales lives
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That's an excellent column youposted there LoveCity, Thanks.
I really hope they got slaughtered tonight, I was just driving,
had 5Live on the radio and the presenter said that Bacon had
described the Rags and Real as "the two great romantic clubs."
I was nearly fuckin' sick, a few back, he wouldn't "sell em a virus",
now they are rimming each other in public.
I really hope they got slaughtered tonight, I was just driving,
had 5Live on the radio and the presenter said that Bacon had
described the Rags and Real as "the two great romantic clubs."
I was nearly fuckin' sick, a few back, he wouldn't "sell em a virus",
now they are rimming each other in public.
quiet_riot
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That can't be THE Mick Dennis, can it? A rag sympathiser to compete with the best, a man who dedicated an entire 'match report' on City to us having too many coaches, and David Platt picking up cones?
MSP
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m1a7FCj2eA[/youtube]
"Cristiano, come back for good! I can get you discounts at nandos!"
"Cristiano, come back for good! I can get you discounts at nandos!"
MSP
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and he starts Giggs.. is gaffer lost his mind?
citytill1die84
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That's a shit Rag line up.
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