United Thread 2014/15

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-nibz- said:
Jamie Jackson tweeted this last night

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The scum are going mental :)
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I was told tonight that Vadge is "a United man". Admittedly, it was quickly withdrawn but the Freudian (spell that!) slip was made. This picture has convinced me.
 
billy no mates said:
badenblue said:
I presume you was not saying that when you first enter the competition, just glad you had managed one of the qualifying positions.
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Eh ? You don't think I can be happy my team does well in the competition as it currently exists despite thinking it was more prestigious in a champions only format ? Very odd, perhaps you think I should refuse to watch all CL matches in solitary protest ?

Considering my post actually supported City's position as League champions being given much more emphasis in Champions league pots/seeding I have to admire your determination to find literally any scrap of something to criticise the "RAG CNUT" for. So much for trying to make reasonable objective comments on an oppo forum :)
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Welcome aboard mate.

My cloak of protection will afford you some cover in these parts, but it isn't impregnable.

Good luck and stick around if you can play with a straight bat.
 
Hoghead said:
Rojo rojo your boat gently down the league
Merily merily merily merily
You've no champions league...
Rag twats.
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Ha ha ha - tops[/quote]

fucking love that arf arf
can not stop laughing. please let all blues sing this loud and clear derby day.
 
Vienna_70 said:
Mr Dintiers,

Your attacks on Bluemoon are like those of a bloke who visits a high-class call-girl and complains about the service she provides, but he keeps going back, rather than go to the two-bit whore he used to see regularly.

This is a forum for our club, Manchester City. If you don't like it, you know what to do; fuck off back to sad café or rag issue or whichever place you came from instead of burdening all of us with your crap and misinformed bullshit.
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Hear, Hear!
 
1.618034 said:
It's a photoshop of this original...

[bigimg]http://siekmann.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lowie.jpg[/bigimg]
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He loooks like my nana Isobelle, same tash and everything.
 
billy no mates said:
aguero93:20 said:
Somehow despite neither having a work permit or full ownership, the mirror reckon they've registered him;
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-uniteds-25-man-premier-league-4161381
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"A club needs to have applied for a work permit prior to the window closing." (from the premier league website) which was certainly the case. Regarding 3rd party ownership, do you have any evidence that Doyen sports still own any part of Rojo's contract ? Seeing as Doyen and United were the ones pushing the deal through and Sporting were the reluctant party, it's a reasonable assumption that Doyen were happy to take the money and transfer the player to United.
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How can you fully sign a player unless they have a work permit to work in the country? So what if it had been turned down, they would have spent 17million on a player that can't play. Doesn't add up.
 
Blue Mooner said:
billy no mates said:
aguero93:20 said:
Somehow despite neither having a work permit or full ownership, the mirror reckon they've registered him;
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-uniteds-25-man-premier-league-4161381
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"A club needs to have applied for a work permit prior to the window closing." (from the premier league website) which was certainly the case. Regarding 3rd party ownership, do you have any evidence that Doyen sports still own any part of Rojo's contract ? Seeing as Doyen and United were the ones pushing the deal through and Sporting were the reluctant party, it's a reasonable assumption that Doyen were happy to take the money and transfer the player to United.
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How can you fully sign a player unless they have a work permit to work in the country? So what if it had been turned down, they would have spent 17million on a player that can't play. Doesn't add up.
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Players always seem to get them in the end.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Blue Mooner said:
billy no mates said:
"A club needs to have applied for a work permit prior to the window closing." (from the premier league website) which was certainly the case. Regarding 3rd party ownership, do you have any evidence that Doyen sports still own any part of Rojo's contract ? Seeing as Doyen and United were the ones pushing the deal through and Sporting were the reluctant party, it's a reasonable assumption that Doyen were happy to take the money and transfer the player to United.
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How can you fully sign a player unless they have a work permit to work in the country? So what if it had been turned down, they would have spent 17million on a player that can't play. Doesn't add up.
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Players always seem to get them in the end.
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Unless its City trying to sign them........
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Blue Mooner said:
How can you fully sign a player unless they have a work permit to work in the country? So what if it had been turned down, they would have spent 17million on a player that can't play. Doesn't add up.
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Players always seem to get them in the end.
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Unless its City trying to sign them........
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Macdonald Mariga call?
 
billy no mates said:
Would be interesting to see an inflation adjusted figure for all the high spending clubs from the inception of the EPL to put it into a realistic perspective rather than agenda slanted versions such as "last five transfer windows" or "since X Y or Z's takeover of club X Y or Z" other bollox.

My guess is United would top that list and that CFC and MCFC have come very close to catching that up in an astonishingly short period of time... pure speculation of course ... which is why a definitive breakdown would be useful.

Regardless, I think there was already a spending problem before CFC (then MCFC) came and exacerbated it. The likes of Leeds especially demonstrate this. However I do not believe free spending billionaire's were the answer, in fact they pushed the bar even further out of reach for most clubs despite breaking into the elite themselves... not everyone has a billionaire handy.

Does this mean I think FFP is fair ? No. It's a reactionary swing back in favour of the "old money" clubs, yes it probably slows down inflated prices a bit but it seems like protectionism where I think it is as much just poor implementation of an idealistic ethos. I can certainly see why people see conspiracy where I see incompetence. FFP is a step in the right direction but clubs that generate high revenue such as United should also feel the pinch is FFP really wants to claim to level the playing field. I do not think that money earned through footballing success should be completely castrated, but being a top ten club now should not mean that you can dwarf everyone else's spending from now on in perpetuity. Sadly I think EU law will make this very difficult to achieve since salary caps and transfer number limitations will be near impossible. However I do think that some ideas could work such as more egalitarian distribution of TV money or perhaps even a % of transfer fees levied to redistribute downwards (though these again would probably incur EU law issues :/)

The loan system needs revamping, CFC's hoarding of young talent severely inhibits one of the last remaining avenues available to smaller clubs ability to use hard work and nous to overcome the financial gap, it also potentially damages the careers of players. A club should not be able to buy a player just to bench and prevent a rival from signing them.

In short I think FFP was inevitable, spending was getting (*STILL IS) unacceptably out of hand. But it needs to come the last step and make changes that allow the spurs and evertons a chance at breaking into the top 4 and the swanseas and southamptons a shot at taking their place, competing for Europe and possibly even CL places. While we all love to see our own team dominate, I think deep down a lot of us would appreciate the value of a league where almost anyone in the top ten could win it and almost anyone in the bottom ten could grow into a top ten side. Unfortunately this feels a long way off.
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FFP put paid to that idea fella.
 
yeah whatever !! said:
billy no mates said:
Would be interesting to see an inflation adjusted figure for all the high spending clubs from the inception of the EPL to put it into a realistic perspective rather than agenda slanted versions such as "last five transfer windows" or "since X Y or Z's takeover of club X Y or Z" other bollox.

My guess is United would top that list and that CFC and MCFC have come very close to catching that up in an astonishingly short period of time... pure speculation of course ... which is why a definitive breakdown would be useful.

Regardless, I think there was already a spending problem before CFC (then MCFC) came and exacerbated it. The likes of Leeds especially demonstrate this. However I do not believe free spending billionaire's were the answer, in fact they pushed the bar even further out of reach for most clubs despite breaking into the elite themselves... not everyone has a billionaire handy.

Does this mean I think FFP is fair ? No. It's a reactionary swing back in favour of the "old money" clubs, yes it probably slows down inflated prices a bit but it seems like protectionism where I think it is as much just poor implementation of an idealistic ethos. I can certainly see why people see conspiracy where I see incompetence. FFP is a step in the right direction but clubs that generate high revenue such as United should also feel the pinch is FFP really wants to claim to level the playing field. I do not think that money earned through footballing success should be completely castrated, but being a top ten club now should not mean that you can dwarf everyone else's spending from now on in perpetuity. Sadly I think EU law will make this very difficult to achieve since salary caps and transfer number limitations will be near impossible. However I do think that some ideas could work such as more egalitarian distribution of TV money or perhaps even a % of transfer fees levied to redistribute downwards (though these again would probably incur EU law issues :/)

The loan system needs revamping, CFC's hoarding of young talent severely inhibits one of the last remaining avenues available to smaller clubs ability to use hard work and nous to overcome the financial gap, it also potentially damages the careers of players. A club should not be able to buy a player just to bench and prevent a rival from signing them.

In short I think FFP was inevitable, spending was getting (*STILL IS) unacceptably out of hand. But it needs to come the last step and make changes that allow the spurs and evertons a chance at breaking into the top 4 and the swanseas and southamptons a shot at taking their place, competing for Europe and possibly even CL places. While we all love to see our own team dominate, I think deep down a lot of us would appreciate the value of a league where almost anyone in the top ten could win it and almost anyone in the bottom ten could grow into a top ten side. Unfortunately this feels a long way off.
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FFP put paid to that idea fella.
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Think it was out in place way before then. In the early 80's I would suggest.
 
jacko74 said:
manimanc said:
badenblue said:
He was registered when he was brought, just never had a work permit so could not play.
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Rojo rojo your boat gently down the league
Merily merily merily merily
You've no champions league...
Rag twats.
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That's genius the way you've got ''league'' to rhyme with ''league''
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cant think of a better match tbh ;)
 
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