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United Thread 2015/16
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been saying this for a while....the press and especially some pundits have latched on to the notion that their defence is rock solid...no it isn't. The way that they set up protects the whole of the back four by their midfield. This is why smalling has looked so good, like you mention when their midfield tried to go forward last night their back line was exposed for once at just how bad it actually is. And this is what LVG has been covering up this season.
LVG has been masquerading their defence as some kind of improvement he has brought to the team, when all he has done is protect that whole back line with the rest of the players. It has all been a false representation this season up until last night
And this is what Mourinho did to Chelsea last season and this. He has drained all the flair and attack out of the Chelsea team and tried to make Hazard, Oscar and Fabregas into defenders. Only Willian had the energy to get up and down the pitch and support the loan striker. He did win the title last season and made Terry look like a top defender again, but if he only has to defend the 5 yards around him then he has the legs to do it.
On the flip side our managers tactics are the opposite of this and he leaves both centre backs totally exposed so we concede a goal a game. If ours had the same protection and Hart behind them then we wouldn't be conceding goals like we are. There is a balance we have to find and it's someway between a Van Gaal/Mourinho setup and Pellegrinis all out attack. One setup appears to have 10 defenders and ours has 2 defenders and then our centre backs get slated if they concede a goal !
Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal said his side "could have scored six"! What with only four shots on target?
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If Aguero misses 3 tap ins in front of an open goal, I would still say we could have scored 3 goals and we'd have 0 shots on target. The two are not connected.
If you watched the game, the rags created quite a few more golden opportunities to score which they promptly fucked up. turtle is right in saying they could have had plenty more with competent finishing.
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St James pitch looked enormous - is it bigger than most? Just got the impression that on a narrower pitch they'd cope so would look fine against most teams.
Maybe I was dreaming. :-)
Btw loved how Sky made out that United were playing well just because they were 3-2 up. When really they were second best for almost all of the 2nd half.
Rooney back ... Me ass!
All European pitches are the same size, unless like Stoke, they can't actually make it regulation size.
billfromthehill
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Taxi for Tony's hahaPitch dimensions
SJP 115 × 74.4 yards (105 × 68 metres)
Etihad 115 by 74 yards (105 by 68 m)
Stadium of Boredom 114.8 yd × 74.4 yd (105 by 68 m)
abu13
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1 win in 8 is relegation form they'll finish mid table unless the referees step it.
To be fair the refs are trying their best to help them but there is only so much they can do, I'm surprised that they didnt call a penalty for Newcastle for Smalling deflecting the ball in with his arm in the last minute, just in case they missed it :)
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If Aguero misses 3 tap ins in front of an open goal, I would still say we could have scored 3 goals and we'd have 0 shots on target. The two are not connected.
If you watched the game, the rags created quite a few more golden opportunities to score which they promptly fucked up. turtle is right in saying they could have had plenty more with competent finishing.
No they didn't
Four efforts on target
Three went in and Fellani should have buried the header, but put it right at the goalie
Lindgard missed an absolute sitter and that really was it for utd chances
At the other end, Newcastle had a very good chance that was sidefooted at DeGea and then he made a very good one on one save
After that Newcastle had two very strong penalty shouts turned down and overall Newcastle were the better team
They could of but they could have easily conceded 6, not been given a helping hand again with a penalty, had Smalling and Fellani sent off and conceded more penalties. Seems refs are already under instructions to give them a handManchester United manager Louis van Gaal said his side "could have scored six"! What with only four shots on target?
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