United thread 2019/20

[blue b4 the moon]

I seem to remember reading that Tampa are one of only 2/3 teams who don't spend the full cap monies, wonder who is paying for Brady?

 

[dario2739]

I must say I'm concerned at the effect the current crisis might have on the Glazer business empire.

Should their businesses become so distressed they might decide to cash in on Utd which would be such a shame as they have been ideal owners.

I think the opposite is true tbh – if their retail buiness is losing money, they'll need to tap their cash-cow for more money... all these rumours about signing this player and that player, I think are smoke and mirrors to keep the unwashed masses at the Swamp from realising how much shit they're going to be in!

 

[dennishasdoneit]

The BBC sports department is an April fool mate, and we’re the fools having to pay for them

No more the Fool..Elkie Brooks.; )

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Its absolutely pathetic.mid table utd being lauded from the rooftops once again by the impartial bbc
No mention of their owners income dropping off a cliff due to the usa retail market crash(shoosh,dont mention it) on top of having to shell out nearly half a million each week on pogba/sanchez wages..two players who have effectively took the piss.and dont want to be at the theatre of dull football.....lets just concentrate on another £50M signing....cos all our readers are gullible and wont know the truth.

The utd way; throw money at it; even when you haven't got any coming in, your grounds falling apart ,and you havent won a trophy for years.
Glory glory manyoo. Lol

Yeh but, they still make pretty good banners........... ;-)

 

[Holcombe bloo]

Possibly one for prestwich blue this. What if the glazers mall businesses go bust/liquidated? Would I be right in assuming United wouldn’t be affected so ramaining their cash cow or would us banks be able to take United and sell it to highest bidder to clear the glazers debts?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Last thing we want is them losing control for someone to take over with money, I'd much prefer hanging on by thier fingertips for say 30 years.

 

[lancs blue]

Tom Brady is also a certified cheat so will blend in well with the other Glazer "franchise".

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Tom Brady is also a certified cheat so will blend in well with the other Glazer "franchise".

Was he involved in the deflated ball stuff?

 

[lancs blue]

Was he involved in the deflated ball stuff?

The allegation was that he ordered the balls to be deflated.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The allegation was that he ordered the balls to be deflated.

Remember reading about it but don't follow NFL that closely these days.

 

[lancs blue]

Remember reading about it but don't follow NFL that closely these days.

He eventually served a 4-match ban for it.

 

[Blue Mist]

Possibly one for prestwich blue this. What if the glazers mall businesses go bust/liquidated? Would I be right in assuming United wouldn’t be affected so ramaining their cash cow or would us banks be able to take United and sell it to highest bidder to clear the glazers debts?

From what PB has posted in the past it is possible that the banks/lenders have said 'if you want more money for your shopping malls put up the raggy shares as collateral. So either, they bleed the raggies dry to keep the banks at bay or, the banks claim the shares and sell them !!!! In a similar fashion, if really pushed the Glazers could be forced to sell their cash cow to keep the banks happy.

 

[Grassland Blue]

From what PB has posted in the past it is possible that the banks/lenders have said 'if you want more money for your shopping malls put up the raggy shares as collateral. So either, they bleed the raggies dry to keep the banks at bay or, the banks claim the shares and sell them !!!! In a similar fashion, if really pushed the Glazers could be forced to sell their cash cow to keep the banks happy.

Let the banks decide on FFP maybe...

 

[Newman Noggs]

From what PB has posted in the past it is possible that the banks/lenders have said 'if you want more money for your shopping malls put up the raggy shares as collateral. So either, they bleed the raggies dry to keep the banks at bay or, the banks claim the shares and sell them !!!! In a similar fashion, if really pushed the Glazers could be forced to sell their cash cow to keep the banks happy.

It's actually a bit worse than that (hopefully). No-one knows for certain because of the way united's finances are deliberately obscured, but its likely that the Glazer's American borrowings are, at least partly, secured against their shares.

All speculation, of course, but my experience is that, because of the volatility of shares, the lending institution(s) will seek additional security such as personal guarantees in case the shares go down in value. So, if their shares do go down, their personal assets would be at risk. A very good reason for them not to sell at the bottom of the market unless the lenders force them to. And then it's a buyers market.

If I was a billionaire involved in a rival business and with unparalleled contacts in the world of finance, I'd be keeping a very close eye on that club.

 

[Blue Mist]

It's actually a bit worse than that (hopefully). No-one knows for certain because of the way united's finances are deliberately obscured, but its likely that the Glazer's American borrowings are, at least partly, secured against their shares.

All speculation, of course, but my experience is that, because of the volatility of shares, the lending institution(s) will seek additional security such as personal guarantees in case the shares go down in value. So, if their shares do go down, their personal assets would be at risk. A very good reason for them not to sell at the bottom of the market unless the lenders force them to. And then it's a buyers market.

If I was a billionaire involved in a rival business and with unparalleled contacts in the world of finance, I'd be keeping a very close eye on that club.

Thank you for posting but I am now so upset by the news that I am going to self isolate. mainly because I have just pissed my pants laughing.

 

[jimharri]

If that's kosher (and it is the Mirror, so I'll be cautious), fair play to them.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Possibly one for prestwich blue this. What if the glazers mall businesses go bust/liquidated? Would I be right in assuming United wouldn’t be affected so ramaining their cash cow or would us banks be able to take United and sell it to highest bidder to clear the glazers debts?

They are very seperate businesses so one failing would not effect the other. The only circumstance where it would is if teh Glazers ues the shares as collateral to fund something and that funding gets called in. I'd imagine that is very unlikely as they are still very wealthy by accounts. I would imagine the real estate business would just be left to go under and they would still be a wealthy family. That said if it did happen then they would want to reassess - you would not want all your money in sports franchises.

 

[Blue Mist]

If that's kosher (and it is the Mirror, so I'll be cautious), fair play to them.

Why ? and by that I mean why fair play to them. The media are just playing this, one minute the PFA are saying the players should do nothing individually, then they announce a statement about taking a reduction in wages. we now have this story. it is just media bollocks, hype the rags, slag City. Other clubs, other players may be doing many different charitable things but these shits are always front and centre of everything. I am surprised we haven't seen pictures of rashford on his door step clapping the NHS.

 

[horlock_was_super]

Fookin hell its full of cobwebs on here!
When did peace break out?

 

[Blue Mist]

Fookin hell its full of cobwebs on here!
When did peace break out?

It didn't but as the press have run out of players to link them to, Sir Marcus of Rashford has found a cure all the worlds diseases and Olly hasn't opened his gob in 4 weeks it is hard to find anything to laugh at them for...……

and believe me I am trying to find something.