United Thread - 2021/22

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alexmcity said:
Their problem is that they are steeped in the past and think that they have to return to their (Ferguson-ian) roots. The problem, however, is that Ferguson had no philosophy and no identity as a way of playing. Ferguson was a great manager, but he was no Cruyff, Sacchi or Pep. He needed help from Queiroz to have success in Europe in his later years. Football has moved away from his ideas about the game, partly because of a certain bald genius.

Truth is, there's no such thing as the United way when it comes to playing football. Being fast and great at counter-attacking are things which are implemented by many teams, e.g., Liverpool. The trick is to be able to do fast transitions without losing the ball cheaply and without being all over the place when that happens. Otherwise, you are too open and vulnerable to counters. The PL has changed dramatically since Pep's arrival. Many teams are very good at possession and know better how to resist counters.
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Thing with fergie was he was a bully and must of had an A level in psychology! With banning a reporter to the bbc also Laying into the referees continually and going to all the referees meeting to! One of his tricks was to absolutely lay into a referee then next day ring them up all apologetic! Once he had the referees and the media in his pocket mid 90’s it was a doddle to win all those trophies!
 
The good thing is, that they need a manager who’s in it for the long haul, but probably won’t get immediate results or trophies now. Solskjaer doesn’t count as he’s not enough of a coach or manager to implement a style of play, so to speak.

As long as they keep trying to fall back on the glory days, they’ll only come up with a cup run or two.

Their fan base and board, as they are, won’t accept a manager who needs to strip the squad bare, acquire like-minded personnel and build their play back up from the bottom. It’d take too long for “the brand”.

And that’s the beauty of it. Chelsea and us can one day look for new managers as it’s all there, every year.
 
Nihilist said:
Conte is a good manager but theres too many egos at United to clash with his own big ego. It will be the Mourinho episode all over again IMO.
What do you think he will do when he sees Ronaldo, Pogba , Greenwood , Bruno play for themselvs and not the team ? When he joined Inter he got rid of Icardi , even tho' he was their best scorer , he wanted a "healthy envinronment"
Theres gonna be circus and he won't make it to the 2nd season.
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This for me also, theres no way Conte is the long term fix they need. They are going to need someone to go in there for 5 seasons, rip the guts out of it and start fresh. They are going to have to get used to mid table mediocrity for many more years. Its going to cost a fuckload of money as most if not all of the expensive bandaids are going to have to go. Its a wonderful thing.
 
The rag thunderbird puppet claiming that fans from Manchester who support the rags are xenophobic to people from Nottingham, it just keeps getting better and better and better ;)

 
Nihilist said:
Rio foul for that
www.thesun.co.uk

Ferdinand mocks Scholes after Utd legend was caught biting daughter's toenails

RIO FERDINAND has joined in on the mocking of Paul Scholes after the Manchester United legend was filmed biting his daughter’s toenails. The ex-Red Devils midfielder has been teased online af…
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Why does that deformed-looking twat have to have his two-pennorth on everything rag? You cannot flick through a paper without seeing his contorted facial features somewhere. The tabloids in particular seem to have a fondness for informing their readers of his latest view on something concerning the rags, and if it's not him it's Ratboy and Spitty preaching from their respective pulpits about the Trafford Red Sox.
 
KentBlue said:
Why does that deformed-looking twat have to have his two-pennorth on everything rag? You cannot flick through a paper without seeing his contorted facial features somewhere. The tabloids in particular seem to have a fondness for informing their readers of his latest view on something concerning the rags, and if it's not him it's Ratboy and Spitty preaching from their respective pulpits about the Trafford Red Sox.
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Because he is a utd icon apparently
 
TFC said:
This for me also, theres no way Conte is the long term fix they need. They are going to need someone to go in there for 5 seasons, rip the guts out of it and start fresh. They are going to have to get used to mid table mediocrity for many more years. Its going to cost a fuckload of money as most if not all of the expensive bandaids are going to have to go. Its a wonderful thing.
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Yep, their best hope is that they have a root and branch reset, remove Ferguson from the board, treat their ex players like we treat, say, Dunne (somewhere between in house media and helping training with the younger kids), and hope that in three years time Pep and Klopp have moved on and that they've built enough of a base throughout the club, including the youth and women's side of the game, that they are in a position to challenge then and only then. Not sure anyone at that club is ready for that yet, though, and even if they are they will be accused of being "toxic" pretty fucking quickly cos all of Ferguson's mates will be in the media moaning about not getting the red carpet treatment.
 
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