United Thread - 2023/24

[halfcenturyup]

Hi, apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

A couple of links below explaining the losses ( yes you are correct euros) under UEFA up until recently. And the PL rules. Essentially they were the same with 15m euros pounds or losses allowed plus 30m euros or pounds extra per year as long as supported/ guaranteed by the clubs owner.

Premier League financial fair play rules explained

The Premier League's financial regulations are in the news a lot at the moment — but what actually are they?

theathletic.com

Football Benchmark - Overview of the new UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations

www.footballbenchmark.com

Thanks for that, but I thought the difference was that the UEFA threshold was maximum 35 million euros over the three year period. Whereas for the PL, it was 35 million pounds for each of the three years?

Explains why United fail for UEFA but not for the PL?

 

[NZBlue]

Now this funny- a journo actually taking the piss. We should have him stuffed :-)

MSN

 

[blueju]

Is it? A quick Google says that UEFA's limit is now just 5 million.

But the argument about one being UEFA and one being the Premier League disappears as soon as you compare their paltry 350k fine to the punishment we got when we failed UEFA's rules. We got a 49 million suspended fine, transfer cap for 2 years and a squad size reduction from 25 to 21. It's laughable that anyone thinks there's any sort of consistency between that and a 350k fine. Especially when you consider that ours was mainly caused by UEFA changing the rules about players brought in pre-2010 at the last minute.

And theirs was reported as a ‘minor’ breach.

 

[halfcenturyup]

The PL's PSR say that clubs can lose £15m over a three-year period, unless the owners put in what's known as 'secure funding' which is equity investment (buying shares). Then they are allowed to lose up to an aggregate of £105m. That's after deducting expenditure on youth development, women's football and some infrastructure related items. Had they not had the recent investment, they'd have been restricted to losing £15m over the years 2021/22, 2022/23 and the current 2023/24 financial year. With that investment they should be OK to meet the £105m limit.

I'm not aware those rules are changing but UEFA's FFP rules are. They'll still have a limit on losses but will mainly look at squad costs as a percentage of revenue. Even with their bloated squad and wage bill, they should be OK on that.

They havent received any investment yet, have they? I thought it was dependent on completion of the 25% deal. Or has that been finalised with all the shareholders already?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

And theirs was reported as a ‘minor’ breach.

Not just a minor breach, a 'minor technical breach.' And you know where they got that wording from? The rags' press release, reprinted word for word, with absolutely no critical investigation required. The BBC article doesn't even say what the breach was, that's how quick they were to sweep it under the carpet.

 

[Zubrman]

Not just a minor breach, a 'minor technical breach.' And you know where they got that wording from? The rags' press release, reprinted word for word, with absolutely no critical investigation required. The BBC article doesn't even say what the breach was, that's how quick they were to sweep it under the carpet.

It is difficult to talk about the truth when your tongue is lodged firmly up someone's arsehole.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Scruffy Jim playing a blinder. Seems the transfer policy continues as normal....beg teams with more money than sense to buy their shite and bring in Dutch players from Ajax......what could possibly go wrong?

Manchester United have offered England winger Jadon Sancho, 23, and Brazil winger Antony, 23, to clubs in the Saudi Pro League and want around £50m for each player. (Evening Standard)
Ajax and Netherlands forward Brian Brobbey, 21, would jump at the chance to join Manchester United and work with former boss Erik ten Hag. (Football Insider)

 

[blue44]

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I thought they were expecting another round of poor financial results? potentially resulting in some trouble from the PL?

Sure it was reported a few weeks ago

 

[waspish]

I thought they were expecting another round of poor financial results? potentially resulting in some trouble from the PL?

Sure it was reported a few weeks ago

They are out they are piss poor lost money but not more than 105m over 3 years