United Thread - 2023/24

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Mad Eyed Screamer said:
A rag on talk sport

"Marcus Rashford is playing in a shockingly poor team but in a good team he has the potential to be the best player in the world"

Darren Bent "Potential? Potential, he's 26"
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Rashford will likely be looked back on 20 years from now as hugely wasted potential. He's literally spent his entire senior career playing in unstable teams with no attacking cohesion that swapped its managers every 2-3 years for more of the same but in a new way.

I wouldn't put it past him to push for a move at some point. Saying that, he's living the life. Gets a ton of money, is the English media darling, and can stroll around all game and play as selfishly as he likes. He just needs to time his purple patch like last time around contract renewal season, and he's set.

Most people I know who support United are pretty livid with him at the moment. Hopefully it continues as such.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Without var this shower of shit would be close to the relegation zone. They have a worse goal difference than Everton in 15th, and the same as Forest in 16th, shit rag twats.
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According to an ESPN assessment of performances over the first 10 games they will finish TENTH!
 
schfc6 said:
Chatting with one of the rare normal rags in the pub the other night, I offered him my perspective and he got it. Hopefully he’s in the very small minority.

I pointed out that since the FA Cup semi final everything they’ve done as a club has been reactionary. Right from the moment the toe sucking ginger pig chopped Zabaleta in half because they couldn’t stand being beaten by the better team.
We saw how they took their loss as they all tried to pile in on Mario. A guy that didn’t seem to give a fuck about much, but he did hate them. But they couldn’t stand that City no longer suffered their nonsense. Ferguson only really encountered Mourinho that didn’t bend over for him. Even Wenger was happy to be the Bruno to his Tyson. Mancini was not, Cook was not, Mubarak was not.

Ever since that day they’ve been reactionary, signing a 30 year old RVP, something that only months before GPC had said United couldn’t do. Something along the lines of ‘United can’t sign established World clad players in silly money’. From that transfer, Rooney, Ferdinand etc all wanted huge wages. The reaction had set in.

GPC knew his race was ran, fucking off and leaving an ageing and vastly overpaid squad.

From here, they still didn’t learn, gpc insisted on Moyes signalling a refusal to accept change or progression.

We got Pellegrini in, we knew it was a transitional manager working towards where we wanted to be. It didn’t need to be instant success but progression.

United longed for the status quo. Moyes would surely pick up where piss can left off, well, he didn’t and in a desperate move to keep up, once again they tried to emulate Ferguson with Louis Long Ball, he understood the United way, so once again they went back to what they knew. High wide wingers, kick n rush football. Not realising this was dead.

We announce Pep. The single most progressive coach of all time(arguably). What did they do? Mourinho. After all this is “Manchester United” and “Manchester United” only know one way.. The ‘United way’. Only the ‘United way’ was becoming more and more outdated. Mourinho suited that. But even if successful, he’d offer zero progression.

Then we saw 4 years of trying to react to all our signings.
One after the other players rocked up there that we’d either identified as a potential player or a cherry on top type signing.
They weren’t at that stage, they needed solid foundations, not players like Sanchez. Did they learn? No. Still going on about “MANchester Uoonited” and the “United way”.

Whilst all this was going on, off the field they were trying to react to what we were doing. Hurrying through FFP, all sorts of other hurdles for us to jump. They were more concerned with stopping us than actually progressing. They’d become Dick Dastardly. Constantly trying to halt our progress rather than grow their own.

It’s not changed, they’re not learning, off the field they’re still trying to hinder what we do, they’d be better emulating and learning from us, but they won’t because their own fucked ego, delusions of grandeur and that fucking “Yoonited Way” simply can’t allow them to acknowledge that it is not only bullshit, but if it were true, it’s so far out of date, they’re trying to recreate glory days rather than create new glory.

Right up until this week, they keep going on, the media will always continue to go on about United being ‘bigger’. How is that fucking measured? JFE at centre back and a half empty stadium on 70 minutes is not and never will be the actions of the biggest club in the World.
Neville harping on about it being Manchester United, Keane going on about what it means to be captain of United. Neville slaughtering the Glazers for not making sure everything they have is the best… Well Gaz, whilst you all long for what once was, you’ll never realise what needs to be. Old Scaffold needs knocking down, or they need to move. They won’t do that.. Why? Because they’re Manchester Yoonited. Not accepting that all the biggest clubs in the World are doing exactly what they think they can’t do. Barca, Real, Atleti, Juventus, Bayern have or are doing what the ‘Nited’ way won’t allow, as they’ll lose their Soul.. Yep, fuck knows what that means a

And Roy, it means fuck all to be captain at United. The club is a fucking shambles. Obviously the captain is going to be a joke, if he had desire, passion, belief, heart and leadership skills, he’s not at United.

All this overseen by GPC, how do you fucking progress with that shadow looming over the club?

Manchester United are Manchester United’s problem. They can’t see it and hopefully never will.
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Lovely bit of writing that.............
 
schfc6 said:
Chatting with one of the rare normal rags in the pub the other night, I offered him my perspective and he got it. Hopefully he’s in the very small minority.

I pointed out that since the FA Cup semi final everything they’ve done as a club has been reactionary. Right from the moment the toe sucking ginger pig chopped Zabaleta in half because they couldn’t stand being beaten by the better team.
We saw how they took their loss as they all tried to pile in on Mario. A guy that didn’t seem to give a fuck about much, but he did hate them. But they couldn’t stand that City no longer suffered their nonsense. Ferguson only really encountered Mourinho that didn’t bend over for him. Even Wenger was happy to be the Bruno to his Tyson. Mancini was not, Cook was not, Mubarak was not.

Ever since that day they’ve been reactionary, signing a 30 year old RVP, something that only months before GPC had said United couldn’t do. Something along the lines of ‘United can’t sign established World clad players in silly money’. From that transfer, Rooney, Ferdinand etc all wanted huge wages. The reaction had set in.

GPC knew his race was ran, fucking off and leaving an ageing and vastly overpaid squad.

From here, they still didn’t learn, gpc insisted on Moyes signalling a refusal to accept change or progression.

We got Pellegrini in, we knew it was a transitional manager working towards where we wanted to be. It didn’t need to be instant success but progression.

United longed for the status quo. Moyes would surely pick up where piss can left off, well, he didn’t and in a desperate move to keep up, once again they tried to emulate Ferguson with Louis Long Ball, he understood the United way, so once again they went back to what they knew. High wide wingers, kick n rush football. Not realising this was dead.

We announce Pep. The single most progressive coach of all time(arguably). What did they do? Mourinho. After all this is “Manchester United” and “Manchester United” only know one way.. The ‘United way’. Only the ‘United way’ was becoming more and more outdated. Mourinho suited that. But even if successful, he’d offer zero progression.

Then we saw 4 years of trying to react to all our signings.
One after the other players rocked up there that we’d either identified as a potential player or a cherry on top type signing.
They weren’t at that stage, they needed solid foundations, not players like Sanchez. Did they learn? No. Still going on about “MANchester Uoonited” and the “United way”.

Whilst all this was going on, off the field they were trying to react to what we were doing. Hurrying through FFP, all sorts of other hurdles for us to jump. They were more concerned with stopping us than actually progressing. They’d become Dick Dastardly. Constantly trying to halt our progress rather than grow their own.

It’s not changed, they’re not learning, off the field they’re still trying to hinder what we do, they’d be better emulating and learning from us, but they won’t because their own fucked ego, delusions of grandeur and that fucking “Yoonited Way” simply can’t allow them to acknowledge that it is not only bullshit, but if it were true, it’s so far out of date, they’re trying to recreate glory days rather than create new glory.

Right up until this week, they keep going on, the media will always continue to go on about United being ‘bigger’. How is that fucking measured? JFE at centre back and a half empty stadium on 70 minutes is not and never will be the actions of the biggest club in the World.
Neville harping on about it being Manchester United, Keane going on about what it means to be captain of United. Neville slaughtering the Glazers for not making sure everything they have is the best… Well Gaz, whilst you all long for what once was, you’ll never realise what needs to be. Old Scaffold needs knocking down, or they need to move. They won’t do that.. Why? Because they’re Manchester Yoonited. Not accepting that all the biggest clubs in the World are doing exactly what they think they can’t do. Barca, Real, Atleti, Juventus, Bayern have or are doing what the ‘Nited’ way won’t allow, as they’ll lose their Soul.. Yep, fuck knows what that means a

And Roy, it means fuck all to be captain at United. The club is a fucking shambles. Obviously the captain is going to be a joke, if he had desire, passion, belief, heart and leadership skills, he’s not at United.

All this overseen by GPC, how do you fucking progress with that shadow looming over the club?

Manchester United are Manchester United’s problem. They can’t see it and hopefully never will.
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Bravo, bravo. Very good.
 
mccity said:
Rashford will likely be looked back on 20 years from now as hugely wasted potential. He's literally spent his entire senior career playing in unstable teams with no attacking cohesion that swapped its managers every 2-3 years for more of the same but in a new way.

I wouldn't put it past him to push for a move at some point. Saying that, he's living the life. Gets a ton of money, is the English media darling, and can stroll around all game and play as selfishly as he likes. He just needs to time his purple patch like last time around contract renewal season, and he's set.

Most people I know who support United are pretty livid with him at the moment. Hopefully it continues as such.
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I'm not sure I agree that Saint Rashford is "hugely wasted potential"... I think he's just a bit shit not to mention lazy.

His overhyped "potential" is just, as usual, a figment of the sycophantic media and deluded rag fans.
 
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The Stockport Iniesta said:
Without var this shower of shit would be close to the relegation zone. They have a worse goal difference than Everton in 15th, and the same as Forest in 16th, shit rag twats.
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Annoyingly just the same as last season... lots of narrow and mostly undeserved 1 goal wins.

They say football is all about fine margins but these twats always just seem to be on the plus side of those fine margins, scraping 1 goal wins that could, often should, have been draws or defeats.
 
Bollo said:
The Dave Brailsford thing. I’m into the cycling so I’ve a bit of interest in how this is going to pan out. Even though I really really want this to be another chapter of clusterfuckery because it’s the rags, my more analytical self thinks this will be a complete clusterfuck.

The power dynamic between a cycling team DS (manager) and the riders is very different to the football. Outside a small number of star riders, most of the team are essentially disposable and will be thankful just to have a contract, even at the World Tour level. In other words, a very different situation to even an average Prem player.

SirDave has always been a master of image management with all the marginal gains guff, but the shine has definitely come off in recent years and it’s not just about the doping allegations. You’d struggle to find an ex-rider who’s had dealings with him with a decent word to say. The impression is that he’s a cold, arrogant egotist who’s used to getting his own way. He likes his favourites and anyone else is just frozen out or thrown under a bus.

He’ll go down like a Uranium dog egg in the Old Toilet dressing room. It‘s not like they‘re a functional team anyway, but having someone around with PEG-levels of toxicity and zero knowledge of football who’ll be lording it over the rest of the management team will tear them to bits. And unlike their parade of managers post-GPC, he’ll be there to stay.

Great, isn’t it?
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I football cycling and I admit I cant see what Brailsford would bring to football. Footballers dont use a machine ! Alot of cycling work of marginal gains are done in a wind tunnel. Working on positioning, clothing, helmets etc.
Of course he works on diet which is to get the cyclist as light as possible but still strong enough for the season.

Dont think any of this will work in football. A six foot tall footballer who weighs 9st lol he'll get knocked over every 5 minutes.

Ineos is not a big cycling power like Team Sky use to be in fact Ineos is a bit like the rags, on the down would slide
 
jacko74 said:
I'm not sure I agree that Saint Rashford is "hugely wasted potential"... I think he's just a bit shit not to mention lazy.

His overhyped "potential" is just, as usual, a figment of the sycophantic media and deluded rag fans.
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Just acts like a sulking moody teenager who walks around the place with a massive chip on his shoulder.
A perfect role model for young little raggys
 
BBC found Ten Hag replacement - McKenna.

Ticks many of their boxes:
Boyhood fan
Ex previous employee
Working wonders in a lower status league
Doesn’t thro money around

www.bbc.co.uk

Kieran McKenna: How Mauricio Pochettino, university and a golf buggy have revitalised Ipswich Town

When Brenner Woolley, the man who has commentated on more than 1,000 Ipswich Town games for BBC Radio Suffolk, says this is "the happiest I've ever known" the club, it isn't just hyperbole.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Still amazing how good the BBC are at rolling out a sports item, that hasn’t got much to do with united, and shoehorning united into the title…
 
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Don Karleone said:
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Blimey Adidas must be a shit company if it cant find and xl keepers shirt and 25 pairs of bigger socks. Not a good look for Adidas and could cause a lose of profits. Fancy a world wide brand like Adidas dont being able to sort this problem out since the start of the season. I wouldnt use Adidas because not only cant their make a kit that fit, their kit also makes you play shit
 
give it to gordon said:
I football cycling and I admit I cant see what Brailsford would bring to football. Footballers dont use a machine ! Alot of cycling work of marginal gains are done in a wind tunnel. Working on positioning, clothing, helmets etc.
Of course he works on diet which is to get the cyclist as light as possible but still strong enough for the season.

Dont think any of this will work in football. A six foot tall footballer who weighs 9st lol he'll get knocked over every 5 minutes.

Ineos is not a big cycling power like Team Sky use to be in fact Ineos is a bit like the rags, on the down would slide
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I've always felt that cycling is a sport where you can get far just by spending a lot more than any other team. It's kinda like the China at the Olympics model. Choose a sport that isn't that competitive or well-funded, pump shitloads of money into it and win loads of medals. It's much harder to do that in a sport which is already full of competitors that are equally well-funded (hence why they've got nowhere in football or athletics). There's nothing wrong with using expertise from other sports (I remember about Pep taking ideas from basketball), but the reality is that there's nothing special about Brailsford in football. Everyone has huge teams of highly-qualified staff looking for these marginal gains already.

Kinda sounds a bit like when Clive Woodward got a job at Southampton.
 
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